Labour predicted to win Stafford in May 2015 General Election by .03% Majority

Who are you planning to Vote for?

  • Conservative - Jeremy Lefroy

    Votes: 13 18.3%
  • Labour - Kate Godfrey

    Votes: 32 45.1%
  • UKIP - Edward Whitfield

    Votes: 12 16.9%
  • Green - Mike Shone

    Votes: 7 9.9%
  • National Health Action - Karen Howell

    Votes: 7 9.9%

  • Total voters
    71

tek-monkey

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It may take more than making companies pay the tax they owe, but why should the man on the street be honest if the multinationals aren't? The amount spent on chasing very small amounts dwarfs the attempts to chase the huge ones, which makes nobody trust those in power.

If I can avoid paying tax I will, until everyone is treated the same I fail to see any reason to volunteer money I'd quite like to keep. Shame I'm on PAYE at the moment so my options are limited!
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
It may take more than making companies pay the tax they owe, but why should the man on the street be honest if the multinationals aren't? The amount spent on chasing very small amounts dwarfs the attempts to chase the huge ones, which makes nobody trust those in power.

If I can avoid paying tax I will, until everyone is treated the same I fail to see any reason to volunteer money I'd quite like to keep. Shame I'm on PAYE at the moment so my options are limited!

To seek Salvation and Redemption shy away from Bellicose

John 29:76
 

kyoto49

Well-Known Forumite
It may take more than making companies pay the tax they owe, but why should the man on the street be honest if the multinationals aren't? The amount spent on chasing very small amounts dwarfs the attempts to chase the huge ones, which makes nobody trust those in power.

If I can avoid paying tax I will, until everyone is treated the same I fail to see any reason to volunteer money I'd quite like to keep. Shame I'm on PAYE at the moment so my options are limited!

Some would consider paying tax the morally right thing to do. Of course, this should assume that the government of the day used it in the morally correct way..............!
 

ATJ

Well-Known Forumite
I have no problem with people who think they have a moral right to reduce their tax bill if they believe that the Government mis-spends it. So long, of course, that every single penny that is due in tax instead goes directly to schools, road safety charities, hospitals, welfare charities... And all those other ways of paying for street lights, gritting, pothole repair, public transport, social care and all the other boring non-headline ways our taxes are spent.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Some would consider paying tax the morally right thing to do. Of course, this should assume that the government of the day used it in the morally correct way..............!

We don't have a moral government, so giving them our money cannot be the moral thing to do?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
I have no problem with people who think they have a moral right to reduce their tax bill if they believe that the Government mis-spends it. So long, of course, that every single penny that is due in tax instead goes directly to schools, road safety charities, hospitals, welfare charities... And all those other ways of paying for street lights, gritting, pothole repair, public transport, social care and all the other boring non-headline ways our taxes are spent.

Its not so much that I believe I should reduce my tax bill, merely that I should get the same treatment as those allowed to avoid it. When there is a level playing field more people will trust politicians, until then **** them.
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Its not so much that I believe I should reduce my tax bill, merely that I should get the same treatment as those allowed to avoid it. When there is a level playing field more people will trust politicians, until then **** them.
What we have in the tax avoidance/evasion/benefit fraud area at the moment, is a system which says it is OK, and legal, to remove large amounts of money from the public purse, yet it is still illegal to do it with small amounts.

It's like saying that the speeding threshold in a 30mph limit is 36mph for a Kia Piccanto, but 236mph for a Rolls Royce.
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Just realised that Haughton is in Stone - poor fellows , absolutely wasted votes, no chance of SirBill ever losing his seat

Same goes for Sandon and Gnosall :teef:

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Talking of tax avoidance or evasion, how is that the council is giving millions of our money to Jersey-based LXB?
 

Prawn cocktail

Well-Known Forumite
That is a very simplistic view, it would take more than getting the multinational companies to pay tax to sort this country out!

What is needed is a radical overhaul of the whole country including immigration, benefits, taxation etc to sort the present mess out, but no politician will do it because it would involve unpopular measures which would lose them votes.

I never said that this would sort the country out. What I said was that this country's media reports very rarely on this subject compared to subjects like immigration. We are always getting reports of how much benefit cheats cost the country, yet this is a small amount compared to the tax that is owed.
 

United57

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£1 billion v £4 billion I'll let you work out which is tax evasion and benefit fraud.

Benefit fraud is not always by the unemployed it covers all benefits.

State pension is £74 billion out of welfare budget of £159 billion

The £159 billion is made up of 13 benefits of which income support is £7 billion and housing £13 billion.

Some of these other benefits are claimed by pensioners and people in employment.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
£1 billion v £4 billion I'll let you work out which is tax evasion and benefit fraud.

Benefit fraud is not always by the unemployed it covers all benefits.

State pension is £74 billion out of welfare budget of £159 billion

The £159 billion is made up of 13 benefits of which income support is £7 billion and housing £13 billion.

Some of these other benefits are claimed by pensioners and people in employment.


Yeah, but, err, Its the scroungers that dunnit!
 

captainpish

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as long as milliband doesnt get in im not too fussed. I know theyre all liars and scumbags but ed milliband looks like hed push a granny under a train for a fiver. Hes a snivelling little cry baby and hes got a real stick up his arse. Theres somethjng just not quite right about him. He would be the worst thing to happen to this country since the demonic tony blair. could you imagine him doing foreign visits? He would be a massive embarrassment. Imagine putin pissing himself when tough talked by a bloke who still goes to bed with a teddy and a soft blanky. The man is a joke. Hes the offspring of am incestuous union between Mr Bean and walter the softie.
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
as long as milliband doesnt get in im not too fussed. I know theyre all liars and scumbags but ed milliband looks like hed push a granny under a train for a fiver. Hes a snivelling little cry baby and hes got a real stick up his arse. Theres somethjng just not quite right about him. He would be the worst thing to happen to this country since the demonic tony blair. could you imagine him doing foreign visits? He would be a massive embarrassment. Imagine putin pissing himself when tough talked by a bloke who still goes to bed with a teddy and a soft blanky. The man is a joke. Hes the offspring of am incestuous union between Mr Bean and walter the softie.


Not fussed?

Cretin

Nobody is arguing that Miliband is arrogant and ignorant but Cameron is evil poisonous vindictive cruel and cares less about you than any living human being
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Wrong lizard......

Choice between a wasted vote and voting for someone I actively don't want is easy, vote wasted. If everyone else did the same maybe it wouldn't be a waste?
 
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