Save Cannock Chase

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Signed already.

The proposals are well out of order. There has been no consultation that I know of. The area is being 'managed' in a very high-handed fashion at the moment.
 

PeterD

ST16 Represent.
I don’t know if you are aware but some areas of Cannock Chase are to be fenced off and other parts used for cattle grazing.
This will spoil a beautiful area for walkers, cyclists, horse riders, families etc.

For more information please see below and if you feel as strongly about it as I do then please sign the petition.

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/save-cannock-chase-aonb
Carol is there any link to information on this please?

Found it.

https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/en...hase/Current-proposals/Current-proposals.aspx

My daughters house is 50 yards from it.
 
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The Hawk

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Not signed.

I have little problem with limited grazing, using cattle; it is a method used in many places as part of a conservation management plan. Indeed there are more cattle on Doxey Marshes (including a bull) than are proposed for the whole of Cannock Chase.

I am not aware of any plans to 'fence off' areas, merely to install stock fencing, some of which will be 'invisible' or 'virtual' fencing; the County Council's proposal clearly states, that "appropriate gates for rights of way and well used paths will be provided to ensure the site remains fully accessible".

I really can't see the problem here. Am I missing something?
 

Withnail

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Am I missing something?
The large areas intended to be enclosed beg the question, well just how many gates will there be? What is the criteria for 'well used'? What kind of gate? Will this make certain areas virtually unusable as a bike user due to the number of gates breaking the flow?

The fencing that has already been installed is neither invisible nor remotely virtual - they're great big feckin' fences with great big feckin' gates to get through. More of those i would really rather not have, thanks.

When were cattle used on this area in the past? What is the precedent for this kind of land management? How about leaving off the next deer cull so that they could do the necessary grazing?

Fences are the first stage of controlled entry, this would be my primary concern.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
The large areas intended to be enclosed beg the question, well just how many gates will there be? What is the criteria for 'well used'? What kind of gate? Will this make certain areas virtually unusable as a bike user due to the number of gates breaking the flow?

The fencing that has already been installed is neither invisible nor remotely virtual - they're great big feckin' fences with great big feckin' gates to get through. More of those i would really rather not have, thanks.

When were cattle used on this area in the past? What is the precedent for this kind of land management? How about leaving off the next deer cull so that they could do the necessary grazing?

Fences are the first stage of controlled entry, this would be my primary concern.
Bang on.
 

The Hawk

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The large areas intended to be enclosed beg the question, well just how many gates will there be? What is the criteria for 'well used'? What kind of gate? Will this make certain areas virtually unusable as a bike user due to the number of gates breaking the flow?

The fencing that has already been installed is neither invisible nor remotely virtual - they're great big feckin' fences with great big feckin' gates to get through. More of those i would really rather not have, thanks.

When were cattle used on this area in the past? What is the precedent for this kind of land management? How about leaving off the next deer cull so that they could do the necessary grazing?

Fences are the first stage of controlled entry, this would be my primary concern.
The importance of livestock grazing for wildlife conservation (pdf document download)
 

Sir BoD

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The large areas intended to be enclosed beg the question, well just how many gates will there be? What is the criteria for 'well used'? What kind of gate? Will this make certain areas virtually unusable as a bike user due to the number of gates breaking the flow?

The fencing that has already been installed is neither invisible nor remotely virtual - they're great big feckin' fences with great big feckin' gates to get through. More of those i would really rather not have, thanks.

When were cattle used on this area in the past? What is the precedent for this kind of land management? How about leaving off the next deer cull so that they could do the necessary grazing?

Fences are the first stage of controlled entry, this would be my primary concern.
Interesting points made by both yourself and The Hawk. Has anybody got pictures of the fencing already installed?
 

Withnail

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Well that's cool and all, but i'll ask again, when were cattle used here in the past? The link you post talks of landscapes shaped by cattle grazing, and of course lots of what we would consider 'natural' landscapes are really sculpted ones, but surely we're talking here of a landscape sculpted by the beasts of the chase?

This is the Chase, the hunting grounds of the Bishop of Lichfield - this isn't pasture it's Forest.

What's with the fecking cows, man?
 

The Hawk

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Well that's cool and all, but i'll ask again, when were cattle used here in the past? The link you post talks of landscapes shaped by cattle grazing, and of course lots of what we would consider 'natural' landscapes are really sculpted ones, but surely we're talking here of a landscape sculpted by the beasts of the chase?

This is the Chase, the hunting grounds of the Bishop of Lichfield - this isn't pasture it's Forest.

What's with the fecking cows, man?
2013 https://www.facebook.com/StaffsWildlife/photos/a.10150172005566796/10151916998376796/?type=1&theater
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