Parking in Stafford.

Gramaisc

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From the facebook group:
Friends Of Stafford
Vicki Slater
36 mins
Just seen on Twitter that our friends at Cup a Cha have posted there will be a Marshall on Kingsmead retail park car park tomorrow and going forwards stopping all footfall into the town....

Sean Sanders New signage is in place advising that the 2 hour parking is for people who remain inside the retail park. If you leave the retail park you risk being fined. I think they have a similar process on the tk max car park

Amy Walsh I have approached the warden and asked exactly how they are planning to monitor this. If you are seen leaving a car and walking into town a note of your registration will be taken and if you do not adhere to move your car I believe you will be fined. I said footfall is what this town needs and this will have a huge impact on small businesses trying to survive this end of town as is it.

I’ve called the council. Unwilling to put any pressure on or help as they do not own the car park. No trade - we can’t pay our business rates.

Not many places where you can park for free these days
Mmm, so, if you give somebody a lift to there, because you're shopping in Aldi, and they are seen to leave the car park after exiting your car...?
 

c0tt0nt0p

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The warden will probably be up the top end by the walkway to town. If you park down the bottom end how will they know your car registration ??
 

proactive

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The warden will probably be up the top end by the walkway to town. If you park down the bottom end how will they know your car registration ??
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Trumpet

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Park up, buy something in Aldi / B & M. There's always something you need. Keep receipt. Wander into town.
 

Mikinton

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And when he asks about my car tell him it's the Koenigsegg Agera parked down the bottom....
Back in the 1980s when half the car park (the flooded half) was the County Council's, entry and exit was controlled by two barriers and the use of a card. And as it took a while for the barrier to lift, a car to go through, and the barrier to go down again, it was not uncommon during busy times, for a queue of half-a-dozen cars or more to develop back across the public car park. Anyway, one day one of the lads from our office, driving in in his sporty little number, saw a fairly lengthy queue of cars waiting to go in and rather than flash his card like he normally did, decided to drive under the "out" barrier and park up, much to the annoyance of someone in the queue. Later that morning he got a phone call from Personnel warning him that if he did it again, they'd take his card off him. "So what?" he thought as he put the phone down. He did behave himself from then on, though he did carry on going under the barrier on his way out.
 

Cue

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From the facebook group:
Friends Of Stafford
Vicki Slater
36 mins
Just seen on Twitter that our friends at Cup a Cha have posted there will be a Marshall on Kingsmead retail park car park tomorrow and going forwards stopping all footfall into the town....

Sean Sanders New signage is in place advising that the 2 hour parking is for people who remain inside the retail park. If you leave the retail park you risk being fined. I think they have a similar process on the tk max car park

Amy Walsh I have approached the warden and asked exactly how they are planning to monitor this. If you are seen leaving a car and walking into town a note of your registration will be taken and if you do not adhere to move your car I believe you will be fined. I said footfall is what this town needs and this will have a huge impact on small businesses trying to survive this end of town as is it.

I’ve called the council. Unwilling to put any pressure on or help as they do not own the car park. No trade - we can’t pay our business rates.

Not many places where you can park for free these days

Oh good, more ways to not be able to park and walk into town. That carpark doesn’t have a parking problem, it barely ends up 2/3 full.

I’m not paying for parking in Riverside just to go into town and probably spend less than I did on parking.

They’ll keep it up for a bit then realise they’re paying for a Marshall who has an impossible task and makes them no money. Or maybe when the tenants start complaining that their sales have dropped as people are parking elsewhere
 
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Studio Tan

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Kingsmead Car Park:

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They're not kidding folks !

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Seriously though:

I phoned Euro Car Parks and asked them about the system - Is there a ‘goon’ watching where everyone goes after they’ve left their vehicle, so that if they leave the park he can run over and slap a ticket on the windscreen? No, apparently in each shop there is a machine where you have to tap in your vehicle reg. number (which presumably concurs with the no. plate recognition camera on arrival). So a rich harvest of £100 fines for people who might confuse ‘0’ with ‘O” etc. Presumably if you’ve entered your reg. number on the shop’s machine you’d be free to leave the park (?). The person I spoke to wasn’t clear on this point as he said it was all very new and he didn’t have all the information to hand relating to Kingsmead.
 

Studio Tan

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Kingsmead Parking update:
It appears I’ve been misinformed by the Euro Car Parks person - there are NO machines for registering your vehicle number, but there ARE goons patrolling the car park - two of them - and they will nail you if they catch you leaving the car park. This info was provided by B&M / ALDI staff. What a crackpot scheme ! How can they possibly keep track of everyones comings and goings, particularly on a weekend when the car park is near to capacity. You’d feel pretty unlucky to get caught.

If you do plan to risk it and escape the car park I suggest popping into B&M / ALDI first and surreptitiously donning a false beard on the way out.
 

Thehooperman

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Surely there can't be that many offenders going into town without using any of the retail shops can there?

It's not like there's an abundance of other shops to go to at that end anyway.

What if Cup a Cha cafe asked to be included as part of the retail park. They could then become an "escape" route into town for the small price of a cup of tea, especially if they built a tunnel emerging out of the old toilets in Market Square :)
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Kingsmead Parking update:
It appears I’ve been misinformed by the Euro Car Parks person - there are NO machines for registering your vehicle number, but there ARE goons patrolling the car park - two of them - and they will nail you if they catch you leaving the car park. This info was provided by B&M / ALDI staff. What a crackpot scheme ! How can they possibly keep track of everyones comings and goings, particularly on a weekend when the car park is near to capacity. You’d feel pretty unlucky to get caught.

If you do plan to risk it and escape the car park I suggest popping into B&M / ALDI first and surreptitiously donning a false beard on the way out.
It would be a simple matter for people to walk through the car park, having parked somewhere else (if not at home..) and confuse the entire issue.
 

Mikinton

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It would be a simple matter for people to walk through the car park, having parked somewhere else (if not at home..) and confuse the entire issue.
I often park somewhere else (usually Sainsburys) and decide to call by Aldi or B&M. How's that going to work?
 

joshua

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There is an in-store terminal at the telford store, so they may come here if people keep abusing the car parking

https://www.aldi.co.uk/customer-services/stores
The terminal systems are introduced when the ANPR cameras are still not preventing people from abusing the car park and our customers are unable to find spaces to shop in store.
This terminal system links up to the cameras so the registration is matched against the picture taken by the ANPR camera.
This ensures that the person driving the vehicle was using the store whilst being parked in the car park.
Should this condition not be followed a charge will be incurred as it would indicate that the store was not used. This charge can then be appealed with ParkingEye or with Aldi ourselves if you were shopping in one of our stores at the time or can provide proof of purchase.

more here:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5089495
 

c0tt0nt0p

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Where I work we have the use of a Holiday Inn Express car park and they have a terminal to punch in the reg number...

Oddly though if you were visiting the Shopmobility store you're pretty much leaving the retail park to just use that store, and the same will be of the other unit adjacent to it....
 

Pooryorick

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It's only drivers who can't leave the site. What if a car with five drivers arrives?Also, how about if a vehicle stops just outside the site and gets pushed in?
 

Studio Tan

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Where I work we have the use of a Holiday Inn Express car park and they have a terminal to punch in the reg number...

Oddly though if you were visiting the Shopmobility store you're pretty much leaving the retail park to just use that store, and the same will be of the other unit adjacent to it....

Would it help if there was a Backstop between the Kingsmead Car Park and the Shopmobility forecourt ?
(are there any military strategists / specialists in international protocol on the forum who could help with the new Kingsmead parking arrangements ?)
 

Mikinton

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Just my six pen'orth, but a system like at Sainsburys would be a good compromise. Pay a couple of quid for a ticket but get it refunded when you spend a similar amount at B&M or Aldi.

Of course, installing and maintaining ticket machines would come at a cost.
 

staffordjas

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It would be a simple matter for people to walk through the car park, having parked somewhere else (if not at home..) and confuse the entire issue.
I used to wonder if I was tracked walking off Asda carpark, whilst taking a short cut across Asda carpark from Riverway, at the time they stopped people parking and walking off.
 
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