Examples of poor driving you have witnessed!

Withnail

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From tomorrow, a trial of rentable e-scooters begins in Stafford and Newcastle-u-Lyme. So expect some pretty bad driving on the pavements in the morning!! Watch out!!
Outside Scaffoldshire Place - available right now - let's make them legal asap.

Current legislation is such that e-scooters cannot be used on roads or pathways - they can actually only be legally used on private land with the land owners permission.

This is quite obviously ridiculous and hire schemes like this are being rolled out - exempt from the above conditions - to gauge how they can be accommodated in the commuting landscape. Equally obviously this is going to lead to the Watch Out!! (bit surprised there wasn't a third ! there) brigade, but we need this, and we need to just take a f**king chill pill and let these vehicles on the pavement.

Yes, there will always be dicks, and there will be some of them on e-scooters, but let's not just cave in over sporadic dickishness. This could be a really attractive way out.

We need to get people out of cars, and buses too, given the situation that we're not likely to get out of anytime soon - at least until they are no longer the exhaust pipes of doom, and the petri dishes of disaster - the e-scooter is part of the way forward.

Please don't be dicks about it - yes they weren't something you saw in the 70's, but that's not ipso facto a bad thing.
 

Raven

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From tomorrow, a trial of rentable e-scooters begins in Stafford and Newcastle-u-Lyme. So expect some pretty bad driving on the pavements in the morning!! Watch out!!
As sure as night follows day & accidents to those walking will of course happen.
IMO cyclists & pedestrians do not mix well (like to tow path past Asda) as you often cannot hear them coming, and they simply ignore the cyclists dismount signs (bye & large)
 

tek-monkey

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As sure as night follows day & accidents to those walking will of course happen.
IMO cyclists & pedestrians do not mix well (like to tow path past Asda) as you often cannot hear them coming, and they simply ignore the cyclists dismount signs (bye & large)
Likewise pedestrians seem to love walking on the cycle paths and don't move when they see you, why cycle at all if you have to stop constantly? Cyclists should be in their own lanes, too many idiot drivers to use roads everywhere and I don't think they should be on footpaths.
 

rudie111

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Outside Scaffoldshire Place - available right now - let's make them legal asap.

Current legislation is such that e-scooters cannot be used on roads or pathways - they can actually only be legally used on private land with the land owners permission.

This is quite obviously ridiculous and hire schemes like this are being rolled out - exempt from the above conditions - to gauge how they can be accommodated in the commuting landscape. Equally obviously this is going to lead to the Watch Out!! (bit surprised there wasn't a third ! there) brigade, but we need this, and we need to just take a f**king chill pill and let these vehicles on the pavement.

Yes, there will always be dicks, and there will be some of them on e-scooters, but let's not just cave in over sporadic dickishness. This could be a really attractive way out.

We need to get people out of cars, and buses too, given the situation that we're not likely to get out of anytime soon - at least until they are no longer the exhaust pipes of doom, and the petri dishes of disaster - the e-scooter is part of the way forward.

Please don't be dicks about it - yes they weren't something you saw in the 70's, but that's not ipso facto a bad thing.

I thought they were now legal but only if part of a rental scheme?
 

c0tt0nt0p

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Likewise pedestrians seem to love walking on the cycle paths and don't move when they see you, why cycle at all if you have to stop constantly? Cyclists should be in their own lanes, too many idiot drivers to use roads everywhere and I don't think they should be on footpaths.

In the 6 weeks since getting a new bike and cycling more I've never had an occasion to need to stop. In fact the only occasion remotely close to that was on Sunday on the Isabel Trail with the daughter where the pedestrians kept to the left so we came through on the right but some knob on a mountain bike didn't slow down and seemed to want to play "chicken" with us....
 

rudie111

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Outside Scaffoldshire Place - available right now - let's make them legal asap.

Current legislation is such that e-scooters cannot be used on roads or pathways - they can actually only be legally used on private land with the land owners permission.

This is quite obviously ridiculous and hire schemes like this are being rolled out - exempt from the above conditions - to gauge how they can be accommodated in the commuting landscape. Equally obviously this is going to lead to the Watch Out!! (bit surprised there wasn't a third ! there) brigade, but we need this, and we need to just take a f**king chill pill and let these vehicles on the pavement.

Yes, there will always be dicks, and there will be some of them on e-scooters, but let's not just cave in over sporadic dickishness. This could be a really attractive way out.

We need to get people out of cars, and buses too, given the situation that we're not likely to get out of anytime soon - at least until they are no longer the exhaust pipes of doom, and the petri dishes of disaster - the e-scooter is part of the way forward.

Please don't be dicks about it - yes they weren't something you saw in the 70's, but that's not ipso facto a bad thing.

My brother catches the train into Birmingham for work. He drives to the station (not because it is particularly far, he is just lazy) So an electric scooter would be ideal
 

proactive

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Outside Scaffoldshire Place - available right now - let's make them legal asap.

Current legislation is such that e-scooters cannot be used on roads or pathways - they can actually only be legally used on private land with the land owners permission.

This is quite obviously ridiculous and hire schemes like this are being rolled out - exempt from the above conditions - to gauge how they can be accommodated in the commuting landscape. Equally obviously this is going to lead to the Watch Out!! (bit surprised there wasn't a third ! there) brigade, but we need this, and we need to just take a f**king chill pill and let these vehicles on the pavement.

Yes, there will always be dicks, and there will be some of them on e-scooters, but let's not just cave in over sporadic dickishness. This could be a really attractive way out.

We need to get people out of cars, and buses too, given the situation that we're not likely to get out of anytime soon - at least until they are no longer the exhaust pipes of doom, and the petri dishes of disaster - the e-scooter is part of the way forward.

Please don't be dicks about it - yes they weren't something you saw in the 70's, but that's not ipso facto a bad thing.
I totally agree, let's make them legal though I fail to see why you can rent one but can't buy one to ride legally.

However, just like bikes, they have no business being in the town centre which is pedestrianised zone.
 

Len's Lens

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However, just like bikes, they have no business being in the town centre which is pedestrianised zone.

Indeed, there was a sign outside a nest of e-scooters today, stating they should only be used where you can legally ride a bicycle. Which isn't on the pavement. So I guess if you see anyone riding one in the town centre, they could be classed as a poor driver, for breaking the law. As a result, I'm not sure how popular this scheme will be for any old Tom, Dick and Harry on the streets. Certainly, it would make sense to legalize these electric vehicles in public places. It can only be a matter of time?
 

staffordjas

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Yesterday ...Old couple in a car approaching the crossing on the Queens retail park slowed right up and stopped at the crossing . As they had stopped completely I stepped onto the crossing , only for them to start off again as though I wasn't there! :roll:
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Yesterday ...Old couple in a car approaching the crossing on the Queens retail park slowed right up and stopped at the crossing . As they had stopped completely I stepped onto the crossing , only for them to start off again as though I wasn't there! :roll:
Never, ever trust cars at crossings.
 

staffordjas

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Never, ever trust cars at crossings.
I don't , especially the pelican crossings by the old LLoyds Bank on Lichfield Rd/Riverway junction . By the time the cars have stopped coming through on red turning right from town direction towards the Hough retail park, the other lights have turned to green.
(Infact I tend to try not to press the button on crossings, it's safer to wait for a gap in the traffic and run across as well as keep the traffic flowing when I can)

As also a car driver myself, I'm also wary of people darting across that crossing at the Queens retail park from behind the wall by 'New Look'. Since the play park has been built I've seen quite a few kids (and cyclists ) darting across without looking , without much warning to motorists when approaching from that direction.
 
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Lee B

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Two idiot drivers today cutting cars up by Asia and island traffic lights using the right hand lane and cutting in before Wolverhampton Road 1st car a blue Golf and second car a red convertible BMW.
 

BobClay

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As previously desribed:

Both fitted with the headliner installed brain matter sucking device I bet. (Convertibles have to be fitted with a sideways unit fitted into the head rest. )
 

Thehooperman

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Spotted this idiot whilst I was travelling on the bus.

No reg plate but at least he was showing an L plate even if it was tucked into the arse of his jeans :)

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proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
So the government are, finally, going to make it an offence to pick up a phone for any reason whilst driving a car. Which is a good thing, in my opinion.

Why though is it still legal to smoke, either a traditional ciggy or one of these awful e cig things whilst driving?

Was behind a car in Cannock yesterday and at times the inside of the car filled with white vapour to the point you actually couldn't see inside for a few seconds. How is that safe?
 

Gramaisc

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So the government are, finally, going to make it an offence to pick up a phone for any reason whilst driving a car. Which is a good thing, in my opinion.

Why though is it still legal to smoke, either a traditional ciggy or one of these awful e cig things whilst driving?

Was behind a car in Cannock yesterday and at times the inside of the car filled with white vapour to the point you actually couldn't see inside for a few seconds. How is that safe?
I well remember the sudden excitement of being a passenger in a car, when the driver, wearing shorts in the hot weather, dropped his fag.
 

Cue

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So the government are, finally, going to make it an offence to pick up a phone for any reason whilst driving a car. Which is a good thing, in my opinion.

Why though is it still legal to smoke, either a traditional ciggy or one of these awful e cig things whilst driving?

Was behind a car in Cannock yesterday and at times the inside of the car filled with white vapour to the point you actually couldn't see inside for a few seconds. How is that safe?

That loophole was absurd, the wording meant that calls and testing were banned but not taking photos or playing games. Realistically I don’t think it’ll change anything though as that is an easy distracted driving infringement anyway.

What was also absurd was calls to ban hands free use of navigation apps and such... my phone is far safer than a Garmin with dogshit voice control.
 

Raven

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There is no need to take your eyes off the road (bye & large)
Many new cars have "some" of their controls buried in or on the info screen in the centre of the dash somewhere, these are touch screens so you do need to take your eyes off the road to operate them, how is that safe ?
 
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