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proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
But for smaller businesses on the continent it's more likely for them to conclude that trading with Britain is more trouble than it's worth.
I have many clients in foreign climes where the system is the same as it now is here. It's really quite straight forward. It's one of the reasons businesses have accounts departments, to deal with this sort of thing.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Isn't there an extra bit in the new rules that says if the seller abroad dosn't follow the rules, then the recipient in the UK is liable?
Yup, which then puts you back into where we used to be. Oh, except the £15 allowance is now gone, so literally any parcel attracts vat.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
I have many clients in foreign climes where the system is the same as it now is here. It's really quite straight forward. It's one of the reasons businesses have accounts departments, to deal with this sort of thing.

Really? Which other countries make you register with their tax department to sell to their inhabitants? I'll admit to not having to deal with many, but all I did it was the recipients problem to pay taxes on goods they ordered from abroad. Or are you talking about B2B rather than B2C? I see that they have targeted the ebay/amazon style platforms particularly in that it is them responsible for the vat, rather than the real seller. In that case I expect people to keep selling to us, but won't a lot of websites need changing to say if you are from the EU it's one price but if from the UK it's now more?

And then we have some rather unscrupulous hauliers charging way more for parcels into the UK than the new changes to paperwork warrant.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Really? Which other countries make you register with their tax department to sell to their inhabitants? I'll admit to not having to deal with many, but all I did it was the recipients problem to pay taxes on goods they ordered from abroad. Or are you talking about B2B rather than B2C? I see that they have targeted the ebay/amazon style platforms particularly in that it is them responsible for the vat, rather than the real seller. In that case I expect people to keep selling to us, but won't a lot of websites need changing to say if you are from the EU it's one price but if from the UK it's now more?

And then we have some rather unscrupulous hauliers charging way more for parcels into the UK than the new changes to paperwork warrant.
My field is rather niche and frankly VAT or its equivalent doesn't feature very highly as an issue, for us it's more correctly identifying the band of import duty payable, which in some countries seems to vary with the direction of the wind. The majority of our transactions are be B2B, technically. Countries include Dubai, Australia, Hong Kong, China... The hoops we will now have to go through for Europe will still be far less time consuming than for Switzerland, for example.
 

PeterD

ST16 Represent.
Will be having my first experience of receiving something from the EU in a week or 2. A german company is sending an LP. This may be fun.
 

Lucy

Well-Known Forumite
Farage has just had the name of the Brexit Party changed to the Reform party, and they want to stand at the local elections on lifting lockdown...
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Farage has just had the name of the Brexit Party changed to the Reform party, and they want to stand at the local elections on lifting lockdown...
Thinking things through has never been his forte...

There will be a run on felt pens to change posters to Deform Party.
 

PeterD

ST16 Represent.
Postie delivered my LP from Germany, sent after Jan 1st. No difference for me as a punter, no additional charge. I hope this is the shape of things to come.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Postie delivered my LP from Germany, sent after Jan 1st. No difference for me as a punter, no additional charge. I hope this is the shape of things to come.
Were you charged differently at point of ordering? And does it have a customs declaration on the outside? Several parcels from Asia arrived this week but all said posted on 30/31 of December, and I see at least one large Chinese platform now specifically charges the UK tax at point of ordering for new orders.
 

PeterD

ST16 Represent.
Were you charged differently at point of ordering? And does it have a customs declaration on the outside? Several parcels from Asia arrived this week but all said posted on 30/31 of December, and I see at least one large Chinese platform now specifically charges the UK tax at point of ordering for new orders.
Nothing at point of ordering, which was pre Jan 1st. Looking into it the value is too low, which works well for me.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Nothing at point of ordering, which was pre Jan 1st. Looking into it the value is too low, which works well for me.
Bear in mind there is no minimum value to get out of tax anymore, the £15 limit is gone, but under valuing items will still mean lower taxes. Unfortunately if they get stopped and tax isn't pre-paid you'll also be getting handling fees too, I'm hoping they are too understaffed to stop many TBH.
 

basil

don't mention the blinds
Is it Freeport
or
Free Port ?

As we've been promised a golden utopian luxuriant orgy I'll take the Cockburns......
 
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