The 2011 Uprisings

John Marwood

John Marwood

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This may explain a bit better what is actually going on right now..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/feb/20/arab-and-middle-east-protests-middleeast
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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'We' seem to be saying little about Algeria, possibly because 'we' weren't too bothered when they annulled the election that would have brought the mullahs to power, almost within sight of mainland Europe.

There has always been a tendency to put up with the 'right gangster' running these Johnny-foreigner-type places...
 
proactive

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Gramaisc said:
In some cases the result may only be a change of gangster, but improvements are possible.
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Agreed. Although it might make the UK and US think a little more about the arms they sell to these so-called 'friendly' governments.

Tunisia and Egypt were by and large secular uprisings by a disenfranchised population and stand a reasonable chance of producing a leadership that is less bad then the one before.

However, for the other Arab nations I think a lot of what's happening right now is caused by Iran doing a fair bit of stirring for it's own ends. Although this may well backfire on them.

As for China, no chance. They'll imprison/kill anyone involved and sod what the rest of the world thinks.
 
Withnail

Withnail

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Results are likely to differ from one country to the other - what they will be i confess to not having a scooby.

One interesting possibility may be a stiffening of resolve on these shores in the coming unrest in March.

What shores i hear you ask?

That's very kind of you, i'll have a pint thanks.
 
Withnail

Withnail

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The military and the monetary
Get together whenever they think it's necessary
They have turned our brothers and sisters into mercenaries
They are turning the planet into a cemetary

They got folks out there working for war.
 
United57

United57

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Iran is probabbly worried. It has a large well educated poulation who are feed up with corruption and want democracy. Iranians are not Arabs and are a secular society, similar to Egypt and Iraq (before the Amercians got involved)
 
joshua

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It will be interesting to see how the political map of North Africa and the Middle East looks in 6 months time though. It's possible that we may be approaching a tipping point of sorts for regimes across the mid-east now that Libyans and Iranians have taken to the streets. These are arguably the two most repressive regimes in the region. It will be interesting to see what happens next in say Syria or Saudi Arabia (both equally equally repressive/reactionary) or even Jordan, one of the more 'enlightened' mid-east countries. Personally, I am not expecting much to happen in any of these, though they all have the same underlying problems; a very young population, high youth unemployment, corruption etc.

PS it take's some balls to still come out on the streets when all you have is rocks facing goons with MG's and sniper rifles shooting from helicopters..
 
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Astro Boy

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Next Stop: The House of Saud

The great 2011 Arab revolt will only fulfill its historic mission when it shakes the foundations of the House of Saud. While their extraordinary oil wealth and a vast repression apparatus make it wishful thinking its rulers will ever reform themselves, protests in Bahrain could spill over to Saudi Arabia, giving the nation's unemployed youths reasons to dream of following the winds of the new Egypt.
Pepe Escobar
 
Scoot Doggy Dogg

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I had a tenner on the Bahrain disturbances being silenced until the Grand Prix had taken place... bugger.

Bernie Ecclestone managed to get Silverstone to fall in to line but it seems some of these foreign Johnnies have no respect for an octogenarian playboy with a bad syrup and passion for voluptuous slavic beauties
 
United57

United57

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Could spread to the England this summer when we really feel the Tory cuts. I know some will laugh but the Thatcher government were prepared for civil unrest and certainly ramped up the police by increasing wages and lots of overtime.
 
toooldtorock

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Id agree withy you there. Brent Crude just gone to $102 per barrel and expected to carry on increasing = 1.50p a litre?
 
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United57 said:
Could spread to the England this summer when we really feel the Tory cuts. I know some will laugh but the Thatcher government were prepared for civil unrest and certainly ramped up the police by increasing wages and lots of overtime.
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However, with the police being made redundant are they going to join the unrest?
 
United57

United57

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Are they not thinking about strike action. I beleieve its illegal for them at present but what the hell if you are going to be made redundant.

Law and order was always one of the tories strong points, it appears not only are they weak on it they want to get rid of policemen and women.
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

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