Margaret Thatcher is dead - Monday 8th April 2013

proactive

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
tek-monkey said:
Because they'd got used to living it up at the taxpayers expense and wanted a pm that would allow it to continue? Or maybe they'd spent so long in opposition they'd forgotten how to make decisions and just copied what they knew?
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As opposed to electing that refreshing 'breath of fresh air' they have now, you mean?
 
John Marwood

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John Marwood

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andy w said:
According to the Daily Telegraph Millwall supporters have warned anti- Thatcher demonstraters they will be about around london after their FA Cup semi final.
I'm sure their boys(and girls believe it or not) aren't that fussy who they have a ruck with, but couldn't help seeing the link with Margerat Thatcher and Millwall.......'No one like's us, We don't care'
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couldntevenbebotheredtoleavethestadium
 
Alan B'Stard

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rbellamy said:
Why do you think that is? Why do you think Labour elected Blair as their leader?
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Labour ceased to be when clause IV was removed.

Blair was elected by the party because the media loved him at the time and he was seen by the party as their best ticket to power.

And Cameron for the same reasons.
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

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Perrier

Perrier

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ive learnt to keep a silent but active approach when it comes to politics, however after hearing today they may ring big ben for all the years shes been alive is becoming a bit too much for my tummy to handle.

I don't blindly make comments without good reason, ive lived through the Thatcher years. not able to get a real job after leaving school mainly because the posts available was for YTS ( and I did those for 2 years).
watch my dad have lose his house through repossession because he couldn't find work fast enough to keep it. and throughout these past 15 years cared for my mother when my dad died who was disabled as well as my wife who again is also disabled.

... and what does this government do to help ? , badge me as a scrounger because i haven't got the time or the energy to manage to hold down a job at the same time.
and the icing on the cake will be my wife having to attend yet another ATOS interview in case shes made a miracle recovery that shes not informed them about.

rant over, sorry.
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
If they rang it for every year we've wanted her dead it would be a similar call.

TBH that is unfair, I'd never want anyone to die. The idea that I welcome her death is wrong, as the bitch is now beyond pain. And now she herself is a burden on the state, surely we should just chuck her body down the tip and charge her kids for it? It's what she would have wanted.
 
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Franklin_Delano_Roosevelt said:
Its funny isn't it how people like to re-write history. Mrs Thatcher is of course just a convienient point for abuse to those on the left or those with rose tinted specs who would have you believe that everything was hunky dory in good old blightly when she took office in 1979 and everything that she did she did out of hatred and spite - what a load of twaddle. Trying reading some history about the state of Britain in the 1970's.

1) Yes she sold Council housing stock. She gave the opportunity for poor people to actually own a stake in society and have a chance to pass something onto their kids. Prior to this the traditional working class passed on nothing more than a second hand sofa and perhaps an old clock to their offspring when they died. She did more to help with social mobility and social wealth redistribution than any Government since. The fact that replacement houses were not built at the rate they should have been is not entirely down to her. Many local authorities wouldn't realise cash or land to make it happen. Incidentially this GOT WORSE under the Nu Labour years thanks to their housing price bubble.

2) In terms of the banking crisis the biggest mistake in this can be tracked back to Gordon Brown's decision to take away regulatory responsibility from the Bank of England and give it to the completely useless FSA. To say she alone caused a banking crisis is incorrect.

3) She did not write off manufacturing industry it wrote itself off through stupid Union militancy and complete inept management. This was not Mrs Thatcher's fault. All she said was that we couldn't continue propping up marxist, failing industries with money that we didn't have. Indeed these days if you ask many miners they say that Arthur Scargill was every bit as culpable for the collapse of their industry as Thatcher was. In terms of incapacity benefit a good number of people displaced from these crumbling industries were actually in ill health - coal miners for example were often in a wretched state. She recognised that they would in all likelihood be unable to retrain or work in other jobs hence incapacity was more appropriate then the dole. Again the fact that this has been left largely unreformed cannot be blamed entirely on her.

4) I'm no Tory but to blame EVERY problem that we face today on Margaret Thatcher is frankly absurd
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1) I live in social housing and personally, I'm very happy with having a stable tenancy and (I'm not sure about then but) nowadays there is something called "succession" (I think that's right) - that means someone (e.g. a son or daughter) can be entitled to take on the tenancy of the property (there are terms and conditions attached) when someone dies. "She did more to help with social mobility..." - just LOL

2) MT's interest in money alone was probably instrumental in starting the monetary based culture that led to the attitudes that caused the banking crisis.

3) This one is too long and complicated so I can't actually be arsed to respond to it, I only replied because I wanted to address the issue in 1).

4) I agree, so that's why I blame every problem on politicians, bankers and this effed up excuse for an economy system we have (i.e. capitalism/consumerism) collectively - but to deny that she played a key role in all this is also absurd.
 
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