Good article in the Guardian. Stafford doesn't generate enough money through number of patients. The Government provided £20 million extra last year and will need to do the same again. Services are " not clinically sustainable because the number of patients and the level of staffing are insufficient to meet required standards of emergency surgery and critical care in the long term." The trust is too small. A fifth of consultant posts are not filled by "employees" of the trust. They are bringing in consultants at weekends from other trusts to carry out necessary health care (at huge expense I would imagine). A&E consultant has just resigned as will others because they know the writing is on the wall. Unless the Government wants to keep Stafford hospital open and is prepared to put more money into it, there will always be problems. Jeremy Hunt will decide in the end, so it will be a political decision. The CCG held a meeting yesterday and they will be buying services for the community in health care. If they think the hospital is not sustainable they will not buy the services. Jeremy Lefroy wants to link Stoke hospital with Stafford hospital in a super trust but Stoke is struggling for funding as well. Would they want to take on a smaller hospital and be responsible for it when its services will be handed on a plate by the Administrator. I'm not sure if it is a Monty Python sketch or a Dad's Army - "We are all doomed anyway"...
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STAFFORD HOSPITAL IN ADMINISTRATION
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loveatfirstbite
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tried changing my avatar but it was too big. never found time to shrink it! will do it up for you x
Floss
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Eating can be controlled, as can replacing management, Obesity is just an extra burden on resources that are best used for more serious problem! Watch big body squad tonight! How many people does it take to take care of someone who is so large they can't stand or clean themselves? ....
proactive
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That's rather extreme as an example, so overall surely can't represent much of a burden.
I shan't be watching that program as I shall be out taking exercise...
Walking to the pie shop.
stafford-resident101
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Yes but they would not be letting Ernst and Young take over now. Labour would have stepped in.
tek-monkey
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I'm not convinced they would.
John Marwood
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I will take your comments as blind faith and not arrogance
Please be aware of history
Please help rid us of an ignorant and arrogant Labour leader. It does the Nation no good service to have a weak opposition
stafford-resident101
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I am aware of history and have said in other posts about how I feel about politicians in general but Labour simply would not be allowing this administration process to go any further, no matter who their leader is.
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
Like they did to prevent the horrors that happened there? They didn't even want an enquiry for goodness sake.
Time to wake up to reality I think. This romantic notion that somehow Labour is more wholesome and caring than any other party is no longer true, if it ever was.
John Marwood
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So
Moving on
Does Labour have a single MP worthy of being Prime Minister?
Not being mischief maker, genuine concerned question
This follows a 'meeting' with Miliband, who, as previously described is both ignorant and arrogant. A concern
Moving on
Does Labour have a single MP worthy of being Prime Minister?
Not being mischief maker, genuine concerned question
This follows a 'meeting' with Miliband, who, as previously described is both ignorant and arrogant. A concern
stafford-resident101
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As I already said, no party is perfect and I am certainly no romanticist. I was simply suggesting that they would not let an NHS hospital go into administration.
proactive
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I bet they would you know.
John Marwood
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This is like saying if Rooney wasnt such a C* nt we would have won the World Cup
Stop it now
Or I will have to slap your legs
Stop it now
Or I will have to slap your legs
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
John Marwood
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The normalisation of deviance
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/p...-caused-by-the-normalisation-of-deviance.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/p...-caused-by-the-normalisation-of-deviance.html
stafford-resident101
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Interesting read. So Cameron is inviting advisers from the USA now. I can see it coming. We'll be following their model of private care in the near future then :-(
John Marwood
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Floss
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It's just another thing that stretches resources, it costs 100k for those extra large ambulances, up to 5 staff to lift a patient, 60k for every amputation they have to do for any obesity related foot problems, not to mention the extra equipment that people have have installed in their homes, to help make life easier and up to two careworkers a couple times daily to wash and dress them!
I don't blame the whole failure of the NHS on obese people but the cost of treating them has played it's part. You can't honestly believe the money wouldn't be best used for treating people who have other illnesses that can't be avoided? That's not to say obesity shouldn't be treated, just people could do more to prevent the situation, even the feeders who bring the food when it gets to the point they are housebound and imobile.
I don't blame the whole failure of the NHS on obese people but the cost of treating them has played it's part. You can't honestly believe the money wouldn't be best used for treating people who have other illnesses that can't be avoided? That's not to say obesity shouldn't be treated, just people could do more to prevent the situation, even the feeders who bring the food when it gets to the point they are housebound and imobile.
John Marwood
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Poor diet, promoted by your Members of Parliament, via lax food legislation, open all hours pubs promoted by your last Labour Government, add gambling addiction thanks to the same MP's permitting 24 hour gambling ads, etc etc
The food and drinks lobby have your MP's in their lucrative fat sweaty hands - money is the only voice here so when anyone suggests there is a problem with the NHS you know who to look to for answers. And who will fail to deliver them
The food and drinks lobby have your MP's in their lucrative fat sweaty hands - money is the only voice here so when anyone suggests there is a problem with the NHS you know who to look to for answers. And who will fail to deliver them