STAFFORD HOSPITAL IN ADMINISTRATION

stafford-resident101

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Good article in the Guardian. Stafford doesn't generate enough money through number of patients. The Government provided £20 million extra last year and will need to do the same again. Services are " not clinically sustainable because the number of patients and the level of staffing are insufficient to meet required standards of emergency surgery and critical care in the long term." The trust is too small. A fifth of consultant posts are not filled by "employees" of the trust. They are bringing in consultants at weekends from other trusts to carry out necessary health care (at huge expense I would imagine). A&E consultant has just resigned as will others because they know the writing is on the wall. Unless the Government wants to keep Stafford hospital open and is prepared to put more money into it, there will always be problems. Jeremy Hunt will decide in the end, so it will be a political decision. The CCG held a meeting yesterday and they will be buying services for the community in health care. If they think the hospital is not sustainable they will not buy the services. Jeremy Lefroy wants to link Stoke hospital with Stafford hospital in a super trust but Stoke is struggling for funding as well. Would they want to take on a smaller hospital and be responsible for it when its services will be handed on a plate by the Administrator. I'm not sure if it is a Monty Python sketch or a Dad's Army - "We are all doomed anyway"...
I reckon they'll close Stoke and Wolv' too eventually in the Condem's bid to kill all us working peasants off, but then again, who will keep the country going when we're gone? Perhaps SIR (WHY was HE knighted???) Mark Thatcher may plough some of the millions his mother stored tax free abroad for him to inherit, may have some answers?!
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Killing off the workers is a bad move, as our tax funds them. Killing off the unemployed I wouldn't put past them!
 

Withnail

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Simon Mann's book on the affair with added juicy bits is imminent i believe.

Probably as good on the timing front as Charles Moore's effort.
 

Gadget

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The problem with blaming the obese is you are lumping an awful lot of very different people with different needs together. One hell of a lot of people classed as obese need no more healthcare than you do (asuming you are relatively healthy that it). There are enough problems with the judge on sight mentality without using a whole group as a scapegoat. The gov does enough of that already. I'm suprised they haven't decided it's all benefit claimants fault. Oh wait....

As for nurses not knowing anything about the patients in their care, i thought that was what hand over was for. You know, that almost an hour, when all you can only get the attention of a healthcare if you are lucky because, you are told, they are all in 'hand over'. Or am i completely wrong as to what that is for? I agree that most wards are woefully understaffed and a nurse can't be expected to remember everyone on the ward but isn't that why you have named nurses, so the patients get divided into more manageble groups? Too much bloody paperwork, if a nurse didn't have to do so much, they might have time to do some nursing and i'm sure the majority of nurses would agree.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Obesity is something that most can control but choose not to, no different from drinking, smoking or even drug taking really. Luckily as my vice is alcohol there is no outward visual target, apart from when I start talking shite and fall over anyway!
 

70-plus

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The former chairman and chief executive of Stafford Hospital are being referred for investigation over the hospital's death rates scandal.

Stafford Borough Council wants the Crown Prosecution Service to examine whether Martin Yeates and Toni Brisby misled its health scrutiny panel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-22276167
How much is that going to cost? Should our council tax go towards the CPS? I am not defending Martin Yeates or Toni Brisby but its strange that the borough council is spending this money especially as their scrutiny committee wouldn't allow Cure the NHS to speak. the Health Scrutiny Committee has a lot to answer for.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
How much is that going to cost? Should our council tax go towards the CPS? I am not defending Martin Yeates or Toni Brisby but its strange that the borough council is spending this money especially as their scrutiny committee wouldn't allow Cure the NHS to speak. the Health Scrutiny Committee has a lot to answer for.
The Borough Council is not spending money on this.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
So they're going to appear before a board of their peers! Wow, that's going to be a rigorously independent enquiry then.. Let me predict, the one who is 60 and probably already retired will be struck off. The others will either be given a short period of suspension, a reprimand or a stern letting-off and allowed to carry on as if nothing had happened.
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
So they're going to appear before a board of their peers! Wow, that's going to be a rigorously independent enquiry then.. Let me predict, the one who is 60 and probably already retired will be struck off. The others will either be given a short period of suspension, a reprimand or a stern letting-off and allowed to carry on as if nothing had happened.

On the other hand

Staff put under pressure to massage figures? An organisation hell bent on achieving trust status by applying pressure ?

And successive and differing Governments distancing themselves from any responsibility for all this?

It can will only happen again, and again, and those at the bottom of the pile will get kicked the hardest
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
On the other hand

Staff put under pressure to massage figures? An organisation hell bent on achieving trust status by applying pressure ?

And successive and differing Governments distancing themselves from any responsibility for all this?

It can will only happen again, and again, and those at the bottom of the pile will get kicked the hardest

True, to a point.

However, ask yourself this. Would you let someone wallow in their own excrement and urine, knowingly let them suffer extreme dehydration, or in anyway degrade them? I know I wouldn't, whatever the circumstances and I'd be kicking and screaming and shouting from the rooftops if I were put in such a position.

And I don't work in a 'caring' profession...
 
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