tek-monkey
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I remember when all that were fields!
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Planning and traffic in Stafford.... terrible?
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proactive
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And there was me thinking I was older than you.
Clearly not!
I don't remember it as fields, but I do remember when traffic was reasonable round there...
John Marwood
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Things will come full circle quite soon
John Marwood
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The traffic in Stafford is exactly as busy as it was thirty years ago, the only difference being that cars are a lot longer now so the tailbacks are too
tek-monkey
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I've wondered before now if using smaller cars would reduce waiting times.....
phildo
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I've wondered if using faster cars would reduce waiting times.....
If you need more throughput then you have 2 options - speed up the flow or increase capacity - so for traffic it's either increase the flow by having faster cars (with enforced minimum speed limits) or smaller cars OR if everyone wants big cars and slow driving then it's more roads!!
Before HC responds - obviously another strategy could be to reduce the demand but I'm just suggesting how to increase the flow on the roads on the assumption that demand isn't reducing.
John Marwood
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The real solution is price
The Falklands Island roundabout Electronic toll scanner
" is your journey really necessary" ?
Of course not , 45p please
tek-monkey
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To ensure only essential journeys are made cars should be made unable to stop unless they have covered 5 miles.
Jonah
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But I have essential journeys of less than 5 miles before needing a stop.
I have to see a client who are based 3 miles from home, then stop, collect work, then go home again. It's a 6 mile round trip but with a stop in the middle.
The same applies when I collect work from a supplier then deliver it. It's a 10 mile trip but with two stops in it.
So how would your 5 mile rule work for essential journeys like that?
I have to see a client who are based 3 miles from home, then stop, collect work, then go home again. It's a 6 mile round trip but with a stop in the middle.
The same applies when I collect work from a supplier then deliver it. It's a 10 mile trip but with two stops in it.
So how would your 5 mile rule work for essential journeys like that?
John Marwood
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Perhaps a day out to Harrogate would convince those who rarely travel beyond the Borough that it ain't that bad
tek-monkey
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I wasn't being serious, lets face it lazy people would just keep driving round the block til they hit 5, but for 3 miles you could easily cycle it.
Jonah
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I knew but I had to ask the question
It's not easy to carry 12"x9"x9" parcels on a bike but my bike is dead anyway.
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henryscat
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It isn't that simple....... First of all the relationship between speed and flow is not as you expect - the reason for variable limits on motorways is that having them increases the capacity of the road by lowering the limit at busy times. In towns you have several junctions interacting with that relationship, each junction with its own finite capacity. Junctions will be more the limiting factor.
There isn't any getting away from the effect that reducing demand for private car trips can have - walking, cycling and bus are all much more efficient uses of road space. A relatively small percentage drop in traffic volumes has a significant effect on delays. Before anyone starts coming up with the umpteen scenarios where they "must" drive - there are more than enough journeys on the road that *can* be made by another means quite easily.
tek-monkey
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Bus may be a more efficient use of space but it certainly isn't of time/money/convenience. Until that changes I wont use buses.
The Hawk
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I was down in Crawley earlier this week. The bus service I used (the Crawley to Bewbush service) runs 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. It even operates a full 24 hour service on Christmas Day. Interesting comparison, as the populations of Stafford and Stone are similar to those of Crawley and Bewbush. Now that's what I call a proper public transport service.
basil
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Mmm Crawley boasts a major international airport on it's doorstep. We on the other hand have Seighford City Aerodrome and Hixon Hanglidermicrolite Heli-port within our environs. And yet neither of our local Duty-Free emporiums stock WSFFs !......
proactive
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Was up in Harrogate for a couple of days recently and, true enough, the traffic in the lower part of the town is bloody awful, even in the evening when you would expect things to flow well with the lighter traffic.
A MAJOR advantage of Harrogate though (apart from zero closed shops and places I actually wanted to buy from) was the use of parking discs for on-street parking. Pick up a disc (free from loads of places) and hey presto you get 3 hours free on street parking (unless you want to park right outside Betty's).
Stafford could well do with a system such as that.
ChrisLewis
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could be a fantastic idea for Stafford - Harrogate here I come!