Stafford is on FIRE! SP Fireworks factory ablaze on Baswich

Laurie61

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Supt Ian Coxhead, from Staffordshire Police, said: “This is a tragic development in a rare and challenging incident, our sympathies go out to the families of those who have sadly lost their lives. “Our primary concern has been locating those who were unaccounted for. “Our searches of the building will continue over the weekend as we work to establish the cause of the fire but it will take sometime due to the unstable structure of the building and dangerous environment we’re working in. “Residents and businesses are thanked for their understanding and patience. We will work as quickly as we can to get Tilcon Avenue back to normality and will keep the affected community updated.”
 
Rikki

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Really sad news about the people who were injured and others who sadly lost their lives. Like others have already said my condolences go out to the families of those involved.
 
staffordjas

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My condolences also to all the families of those involved ,and hope all the people who were injured make a good recovery.
 
Maryland

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Gareth said:
Police will do their duediligence upon the cause of the investigation, this could easily be an accident or electrical fault, hope so.

I hope maryland is embarrassed by the comment regarding being disappointed that finding the town was only partially on fire. Some should engaged their grey matter before such idiot remarks.

my those 2 people rest in peace.
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No, Gareth, I'm not 'embarrassed'. Humour, you know. Or possibly not. A remark made in jest employing the device of exaggeration for comic effect could not be construed - unless effort were being made to find offence to be taken, which appears to be the case here - as making light of any tragedy, not least because the comment did not refer directly to the fire in Baswich - obviously, and for obvious reasons - and because the events subsequently reported had not even been hinted at at the time. As you haven chosen not to recall, I expressed proper and genuine concern for the possibility of casualty in the next sentence of the post. And I am neither an idiot, nor someone who would engage in anonymous insult. Look to yourself sir, before you leap to condemn someone else for something which you have chosen to imagine.
 
tek-monkey

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It's one of those things, I'm guilty about telling jokes regarding many disasters but people feel different when it's close to home. You are only allowed to jape about things when nobody knows the dead it seems.
 
Noah

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I guess a lot of the people involved in the incident will be telling each other jokes about it because that is the only way they have of coping with the stress.
 
L

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Noah said:
I guess a lot of the people involved in the incident will be telling each other jokes about it because that is the only way they have of coping with the stress.
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That doesn't make it okay to joke about it ourselves.

I once had some dude try to justify his improvised song lyrics joking about rape by saying that he had a friend who was raped who used humour in a song she wrote about her own rape. There's plenty of stuff online about how rape jokes contribute to rape culture.

In general terms, if people want to joke about things amongst themselves to help cope then that is up to them but for people to make light of tragedies (especially those that are oppressive/violent) either publicly or with an audience you are unfamiliar with is something that should be considered very carefully beforehand.
 
juice-comedy

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For whatever this is worth - my friend's in the States have informed me that this news story has made tonight's NBC Nightly News.
 
Tants

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I'm fuming at the disgusting journalism in that report. Someone has been up here digging for a name of a person, hunting down their family and harassing neighbours! All to get something in print!

Throw in to that the comment below when they felt the need to describe him by the price of his house!!

"A relative of Mr Hillier who came to the door of the family's £157,000 bungalow, in Cannock, Staffordshire said: 'We are just feeling numb at the moment and don't wish to say any more for now."

I hope the family lodge a very serious complaint!
 
Maryland

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Lunar Scorpion said:
That doesn't make it okay to joke about it ourselves.

I once had some dude try to justify his improvised song lyrics joking about rape by saying that he had a friend who was raped who used humour in a song she wrote about her own rape. There's plenty of stuff online about how rape jokes contribute to rape culture.

In general terms, if people want to joke about things amongst themselves to help cope then that is up to them but for people to make light of tragedies (especially those that are oppressive/violent) either publicly or with an audience you are unfamiliar with is something that should be considered very carefully beforehand.
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I understand exactly what you say, LS, but would point out - and only because I'm a bit ticked off about this - that I wasn't joking about rape, or in other words, I certainly wasn't joking about a fire in Baswich. And nor, extremely obviously, would any normal person EVER make a joke about a specific real situation of which there was reasonable suspicion that it might lead to human tragedy. There was no indication at the time that there had been any casualties in this fire. And I did clearly express hope that this was indeed the case in my post. Had there been any such indication, I would OF COURSE not have said, obviously not meaning that this was what I actually thought, something that was obviously said in jest, about fires and the town of Stafford.

For instance, If you happen not to feel too impressed by, I dunno, Tescos, you might say 'I hope tescos goes bust' . If a big employer in Stafford subsequently went bust, and two hundred people in Stafford lost their livelihoods, the likes of this gentleman would pop up and say ' I hope you feel sorry now, LM. Idiots should think before saying things about tescos going bust'. In effect what was being advocated was the banning of black humour because real events are sometimes unpleasant. Not that I was joking about that fire, but, clearly, about the town of Stafford burning down. Which is obviously not a genuine sentiment.

What happened on Thursday evening is very, very sad. That's what needs to be remembered.
 
captainpish

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Maryland said:
I understand exactly what you say, LS, but would point out - and only because I'm a bit ticked off about this - that I wasn't joking about rape, or in other words, I certainly wasn't joking about a fire in Baswich. And nor, extremely obviously, would any normal person EVER make a joke about a specific real situation of which there was reasonable suspicion that it might lead to human tragedy. There was no indication at the time that there had been any casualties in this fire. And I did clearly express hope that this was indeed the case in my post. Had there been any such indication, I would OF COURSE not have said, obviously not meaning that this was what I actually thought, something that was obviously said in jest, about fires and the town of Stafford.

For instance, If you happen not to feel too impressed by, I dunno, Tescos, you might say 'I hope tescos goes bust' . If a big employer in Stafford subsequently went bust, and two hundred people in Stafford lost their livelihoods, the likes of this gentleman would pop up and say ' I hope you feel sorry now, LM. Idiots should think before saying things about tescos going bust'. In effect what was being advocated was the banning of black humour because real events are sometimes unpleasant. Not that I was joking about that fire, but, clearly, about the town of Stafford burning down. Which is obviously not a genuine sentiment.

What happened on Thursday evening is very, very sad. That's what needs to be remembered.
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You dont have to explain yourself. Its very obvious that you had no intention to joke about the firework factory. Some people just have a huge stick up their arse.
 
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