Leave or Remain?

citricsquid

citricsquid

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Laurie61 said:
In this major debate, we hosted former deputy prime minister Nick Clegg, who has long supported further European integration. Against him was Gisela Stuart, the Labour MP and chair of Vote Leave. No ‘little Englander’, she argued that Brexit is the progressive choice. But this was a debate with a difference. As well as our two main advocates, there were three special experts – who shared the findings of their research on the economy, law and immigration. In addition, there was a professional fact checker from Full Fact, an independent fact checking charity, who was on hand to resolve any disputed claim at the click of a button.

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This was fantastic, thank you very much for sharing! I wish it had been many hours longer, there seemed to be so much more to talk about, but it still helped a great deal.
 
Floss

Floss

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Gramaisc said:
The problem with the EU that would bother me most is that around 40% of the budget goes on agriculture - I note that every referendum poster/placard that I see on farmland is for leaving, yet I've heard nothing about what would happen to farm subsidies as a result. Is there an 'official' position on this?

In fact, I haven't seen a single Remain poster/placard anywhere.
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Was thinking the same myself there are a couple of leave placards on the A34 either side of the greyhound
 
PeterD

PeterD

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There was a leave placard at killer roundabout by The Four Crosses, they have since been consigned to the bin.
 
Bob

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hop said:
Up until a few years ago you didn't need to be a farm to claim payments, I know of several people with gardens of 1 acre who claimed subsidies, of course in the UK we have a large population living on a small amount of land so few normal people would qualify or even realise they could make a claim.

It's not surprising you had all these alleged French farm owners up in arms, when in reality it was just a villager with a garden getting something for nothing.
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There are stewardship grants available, these are usually about protecting the hedgerows and trees (particularly dead trees) for birds and wildlife, sometimes it could be implemented in areas with endangered or at risk wildlife such as newt or rare birds, I know of land owners who have been paid if certain birds have been seen on the land, especially in wetland habitats. I could be wrong but I don't think these subsidies are paid out for a standard garden, I to my knowledge there are a lot of hoops to jump through, and rightly so.
 
Withnail

Withnail

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So far i've seen a grand total of one 'Leave' placard - in Brocton. Also seen a house draped in an enormous Euro flag, which i assume was'Remain' in sentiment.

Poor show, really.
 
hop

hop

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Bob said:
I to my knowledge there are a lot of hoops to jump through, and rightly so.
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This was a few years ago and then things were tightened up. I can't recall if the payment was CAP or single farm payment and if you google these terms now you come across the current situation. However prior to around 2014 it was certainly possible to get a subsidy for a garden on 1 acre of more. There were few hoops you had to make out that land was available for grazing / pasture which most entailed keeping a few bails of hay in an outbuilding as evidence of the working nature of the land.
 
macabremagpie

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I was the only person in there when I voted (in Highfields). I did see maybe 3-4 people nearby who I presume had just voted or where on their way (due to the location), all probably 70+.
 
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