HopesDad
Don't feed the troll
That is because you are unable to find any faults in my arguments and have nothing to contribute to the debate. You are a joke.
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The future of town centers? - Discussion
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Gramaisc
Forum O. G.
I was hoping for more tanh that.Well the best I can promise is not to do anymore cosine jokes.
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
You are probably right. Would be nice if it was feasible though.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
I find many faults in your arguments, the main one is that your 'argument' is merely a whine. If you aren't actively trying to improve the town you don't have the right to bitch at those risking their livelihoods who are.
Goldilox
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The Tron Kirk in Edinburgh is a listed building that's used as a market, so it can't be impossible. It might depend on what physical alterations you needed to make to accommodate it of course.
HopesDad
Don't feed the troll
It mainly depends on how committed the council is to actually making it happen.
Which means that in Stafford it will never happen.
gilbert grape
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My learned (or not so) friend - "No one actually makes a point" was always going to be met with derision as it's generalising beyond silliness!
The thread has lots of views and many valid ones.
Anyway, back on track - there are loads of places, worse than Stafford and I'm looking forward to seeing what Summer brings. THe amount of cafes, bars and restaurants, I am quite sure, will make the place a hive of activity and keep people in work.
The thread has lots of views and many valid ones.
Anyway, back on track - there are loads of places, worse than Stafford and I'm looking forward to seeing what Summer brings. THe amount of cafes, bars and restaurants, I am quite sure, will make the place a hive of activity and keep people in work.
BobClay
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Yes, always liked the counter to the Stark words: 'Summer is coming.' And personally I like the idea of cafes, bars and restaurants and social gathering places in a town centre rather than soulless shops filled with expensive goods I can get cheaper online and delivered to the door or pick up point with the option to send back if I'm not happy.
It's just one idea, and like all ideas is subject to debate, change, rejection and/or modification, leave the nastiness on the door step, or for those who enjoy nastiness, put up your name so we can see where you're coming from. Have a little honour.
Jonah
Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
The Gallery aren't even allowed to drill into the walls let alone knock any walls about.
Wormella
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But they have semi permanent partitions up...
Jonah
Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
None are fixed to the walls.
If they do need to fix to walls, permission is needed and afterwards everything has to be put back exactly as was.
Wormella
Well-Known Forumite
That's what I mean - they have ways of dividing up the space if they needed too without fixed walls
Dabbler
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It'd be great to see Shire Hall being used positively for a market, pop up shops, to continue supporting local artists etc. There must be solutions that overcome any difficulties around access, listing of building etc. Maybe we should be encouraging our County Councillors to think innovatively about a solution for Shire Hall that attracts people into the town centre.
kyoto49
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This is the kind of forward alternative thinking Stafford needs. It's a great idea. The council will definitely not employ you lol!!!
Dabbler
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Really?
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I have kept very quiet but you really do seem to have a bit of a problem. I can only imagine you have recently been made redundant and have an axe to grind with something or someone. Your aggression does you no favours as some of the things you say make sense but these are far outweighed by the aggressive stance you have with other people, especially those who challenge your point of view.
You claim that we are leaving it up to you to "sort the mess out" - if you are able to do so- please do it and get paid for it. If you are not in a position to do this, do your best to influence those who are but I guarantee that aggression is not the way to do it. Being a keyboard warrior achieves even less than having a laugh - there is usually truth in humour and it's a very good way of getting people to look at things differently. The more people you wind up, the more people will block you and the less your voice will be heard, thereby ruining what you are trying to achieve. I am all for debate, disagreement and challenging words, but personal attacks are pointless, petty and really rather rude. Some of us have our livelihoods in Stafford and have spent many years trying to get talking shops to actually do something instead of just talk. Please trust me when I tell you that rudeness and aggression achieves nothing but creates barriers to progress. If you know what is best for Stafford, cost it out, research it and present it as some of us have done in the past. Then don't get angry because things don't go your way - just get frustrated and try again in another manner. You will soon discover that you will need a sense of humour.
Mikinton
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I can accept the rudeness, aggression etc, but what has disappointed me is the lack of suggestions about how things might be improved. And I don't think I've even seen details of what's been done wrong in the past either, and what should have been done instead. There's just been nothing of any substance.
HopesDad
Don't feed the troll
I do not need you or anyone else to tell me what to say or how to say it. Unlike most others on this board I do have opinions of my own, I am a leader not a follower.
Nothing is to be achieved by humour. Jokes are suitable for playgrounds or comedy clubs, not discussion forums, although a number of individuals on here seem unable to tell the difference.
And for your information I have never been made redundant, I am in full time employment, as I have been every day of my working life since leaving university, unlike many of the population of Stafford I have no problem with holding down a full-time job. I have no axe to grind with anyone. My mission is simply to rescue Stafford from the crisis in which it has been put. But unlike most on here, I do more than just talk.
Lucy
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You do, however, believe you can tell anyone else what they should say and think?
Ah, so now it's not just the shops. it's the fact some people don't have a full time job? As is the same in many places. Some people could work, some people choose not to work, some people have very good jobs, some people have well paid jobs, some people have poorly paid jobs. Which of those groups do you believe are the most important?
Ah, so now it's not just the shops. it's the fact some people don't have a full time job? As is the same in many places. Some people could work, some people choose not to work, some people have very good jobs, some people have well paid jobs, some people have poorly paid jobs. Which of those groups do you believe are the most important?