Savage dog attack

kyoto49

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Can anyone help identify this savage Staffie and it's owner?

Posted from FB Neil Summers of Seighford:

So at about 8am this morning, my brother was walking his dog Bella near to Doxey Marshes / Creswell play park. His poor dog was viciously attacked by a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. The owner had another poodle / terrier type dog. Both dogs where off the lead and he did a runner. Bella has spent the best part of the day at a specialist vets in Stoke. Understandably, my brother is very upset and also £1000 worse off. Any information regarding the dog owner would be appreciated. Contact me as my brother is not on Facebook. Cheers

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number9

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nasty. I hope the irresponsible owner is caught and your brother able to sue for his money back.
his dog looks strong so hope she recovers well. good luck
 

staffordjas

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Poor Bella :hug: Hope she makes a good recovery, so horrible for her and must have been so petrifiying for Bella and her owner . Hope the owner and dog involved are identified,

(My dog was attacked years ago by a security blokes Alsation. His young son was walking it and he let the lead go when it pulled to attack. At least the lad tried to kick his dog off , but my dog ended up at the vets needing stitches and I ended up up having stitches in A&E after trying to free her lead which was pinning her down! Scared me whilst walking her after that)
 

wmrcomputers

Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
It really p***es me off how many people ignore the law regarding dogs having to be on leads at all times. I had one lady about it who's dog ran at mine a few months back and all she could answer was "it's okay, he's friendly". Oh right... so the law doesn't come into it then? I explained to her that the particular dog I was walking (ON her lead) is not very accepting of other dogs especially when being charged at whether it be in a playful manner or not. I also said that she was lucky on that occasion that my dog didn't bite hers in it's defence. Apparently "I" was in the wrong for walking my dog if she doesn't get along with other dogs despite the fact that I was abiding by the law, keeping her on the lead and making sure I kept clear of other dog walkers. The bloody cheak!!

Anyway, hope Bella is okay - she looks like she'll heal well. Good look in finding the culprit, although I doubt you'll have much luck as it will no doubt be one persons word against the other unless you had anyone witness the attack. If the owner legged it then no doubt he's the kind of guy that would also deny it being his dog that did it.
 

kyoto49

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It really p***es me off how many people ignore the law regarding dogs having to be on leads at all times. I had one lady about it who's dog ran at mine a few months back and all she could answer was "it's okay, he's friendly". Oh right... so the law doesn't come into it then? I explained to her that the particular dog I was walking (ON her lead) is not very accepting of other dogs especially when being charged at whether it be in a playful manner or not. I also said that she was lucky on that occasion that my dog didn't bite hers in it's defence. Apparently "I" was in the wrong for walking my dog if she doesn't get along with other dogs despite the fact that I was abiding by the law, keeping her on the lead and making sure I kept clear of other dog walkers. The bloody cheak!!

Anyway, hope Bella is okay - she looks like she'll heal well. Good look in finding the culprit, although I doubt you'll have much luck as it will no doubt be one persons word against the other unless you had anyone witness the attack. If the owner legged it then no doubt he's the kind of guy that would also deny it being his dog that did it.

Me too! Just a couple of weeks ago on our Sunday ramble near Ellaston we (with our dog on lead ) were charged by 3 off lead lurchers. Bear in mind this was countryside land with livestock in most fields and it's easy to understand why my high-prey drive yampster was on the lead. Lamb for dinner anyone??! Anyway, not only was it scary for the dog, it was very scary for us and I gave the couple a piece of my mind. Their respsonse was that I was a " cruel dog owner for not letting my dog off the lead" ..............yes, she actually said that while my dog was in the middle of an 8 mile walk! I told her in no uncertain terms, in my most profane laden language :) that the law said that dogs had to be under control at all times and that her's weren't and mine was. There is just no getting through to some people as her next statements was "well we live here"!!! Unbelievable some people. Thankfully my dog escaped physically unscathed, but the mental impact is as yet unknown. I sort of wish he had attacked them, as I think that is all they would have understood :(
 

age'd parent

50,000th poster!
I think I have mentioned that I have a rescue dog, she is always on a lead as
she hates other dogs and when other dogs run up to her to "play with her "
she goes straight for the throat, I have warned many people with their dogs
of the lead about it, but they seem to be blind to the danger to their own dog,
sadly one day she will hurt some dog and it will be the owners fault.
 

Kopite76

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Since when has it been law to keep your on dogs on leads at times?

I walk mine in fairly open and secluded fields but if I see anyone else I always put mine back leash.

There's always idiots about who think it's a good idea to let their dog approach yours when yours is on lead and there's isn't. Best one I had when I told someone my dog doesn't like strange dogs approaching was for them to say it's ok if he gets bitit will teach him some manners!
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
We walk ours a couple of times a day on the chase and they're always off lead. Whenever there's anyone about we don't know though they're brought to heel. There's no way they're allowed to jump up strangers.

Just wish some of the 'touristy' chase types behaved the same with theirs. They don't like it when you pull them up on it...
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
We walk ours a couple of times a day on the chase and they're always off lead. Whenever there's anyone about we don't know though they're brought to heel. There's no way they're allowed to jump up strangers.

Just wish some of the 'touristy' chase types behaved the same with theirs. They don't like it when you pull them up on it...

 

kyoto49

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Since when has it been law to keep your on dogs on leads at times?

I walk mine in fairly open and secluded fields but if I see anyone else I always put mine back leash.

There's always idiots about who think it's a good idea to let their dog approach yours when yours is on lead and there's isn't. Best one I had when I told someone my dog doesn't like strange dogs approaching was for them to say it's ok if he gets bitit will teach him some manners!

It'slaw to keep your dog 'under control' at all times. For your average dog owner they can't even manage that when the dog is ON the lead, let alone if it is off it :(
 

Cue

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This is my biggest fear about getting a dog, the last thing I'd want is it to be attacked by some prick's hell hound.

What's the legal ramifications of defending your own dog if you think it's in danger from another? I believe if it's going after you, you can use as much force as necessary (including deadly I assume). I'd hope the same goes for defending your own dogs too.
 

Kopite76

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It'slaw to keep your dog 'under control' at all times. For your average dog owner they can't even manage that when the dog is ON the lead, let alone if it is off it :(

That's how I understood it as well. The problem is even the most obedient dog could get distracted or even snap. Always best to keep on lead if others about
 

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
This is my biggest fear about getting a dog, the last thing I'd want is it to be attacked by some prick's hell hound.

What's the legal ramifications of defending your own dog if you think it's in danger from another? I believe if it's going after you, you can use as much force as necessary (including deadly I assume). I'd hope the same goes for defending your own dogs too.
The ex had a long walking stick with a sharp point on the end, supposedly for whappin in the ground to help you get up steep hills etc. He always said that if either the kids or the Labby were to be attacked by a loose dog, then he wouldn't hesitate to use the pointy bit as a weapon.
 

wmrcomputers

Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
I was told a few years ago by a vet that the law is quite strict. Although it doesn't definitively state that they must always be on a lead, anyone has the right to feel threatened by it not being so... including those WITH their dog on a lead and also those who have a genuine fear of all dogs. Because of this your dog can be as friendly as anything but you can still be prosecuted in the wrong situation.

Bottom line in my opinion is that there is as much chance of the above incident happening to a friendly dog who is OFF the lead, by a not-so-friendly dog that is ON the lead, and under those circumstances I'm pretty sure that I know who's side the law would be on. Whilst I do try my best to understand those that say they allow their dog off the lead / put it back on the lead if another dog appears PLEASE STOP AND THINK. One day you might not get the chance, and regardless of the law do you really want to risk your dog being attacked by another? If every dog owner has them on leads then it is easy for owners to be in control at all times. Those with dogs like one of mine can safely avoid any risky situations and those with friendly accepting dogs can still have an opportunity to introduce the animals if both agree.

One of our children at a very young age used to be petrified of all dogs. It's one of the reasons we bought our first pup that could grow with him and break the fear of them. Prior to that, if a friendly dog off a lead was heading towards us he would scream & shake - almost start fitting through the shear fear of what he thought was going to happen. Nightmares would always follow that night. Please - put yourself in others shoes and remember that not everyone loves dogs. Friendly or not!
 
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