Petition to stop Staffordshire Bull Terriers being added to dangerous dog act

Nicedave

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PETA, an organisation that is meant to be dedicated to protecting animals, has proposed to the UK government that it should add Staffordshire Bull Terriers to the dangerous dogs act, effectively banning them outright. Breed Specific Legislation is not the solution to the problem of dog attacks.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/222419
 

Gareth

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Put them on, they can be dangerous and aggressive even in the right hands.

I have no qualms either way, but from personal experience I see why they would try this
 

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Bob

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Staffordshire bull terriers were bred for fighting, that's what they are pre disposed to.

Personally I would class every dog as a dangerous one, even those family pets that have never shown any sign of aggression could potentially do somebody some serious damage. Yes there is a lot to be said for how dogs are treated and cared for but I wouldn't have a St Bernard and expect it to be a good rabbit catcher, nor would I expect a chiwawa to enjoy a daily ten mile hike or a springer spaniel to spend all day content in a house.

Certain dog breeds have certain characteristics that are present across the entire bread, all bull dogs have higher levels of aggression imprinted in their DNA, that's not to say all will act on it but all will have that potential to far easier than Labrador, it's not their fault it's just one of those things which is a problem only compounded by the fact that they are a status symbol for many who train them to be overly aggressive.

We have a collie, and they can be a funny breed, you either get a good one or you get a complete twat, one of our collies litter is very aggressive and another is just like ours - both stayed on the farm and were raised the same. I've always cringed when people let their dogs play with babies and jump up toddlers, it only takes a spilt second, a poke in the eye a pull of a tail and it's too late and that's any dog of any breed.

We had ours as a pup and for almost three years before eldest child arrived, we distanced her from him, he's never been funny with the kids but has snapped at other dogs in the past, he was overly coddled by my husband who took him to work and has always been content with his own company. It's a shame in a way because the kids absolutely adore him now, it's only in the past 12 months he's been more interested in them and now youngest is older and knows how to treat him we're not forever telling them to leave him alone. Unfortunately he's now hit his 13th year and we're not going to have him forever.

I would never have another collie, mostly because we'd never get another Jeffery, he's an absolute star but also because a collie isn't a breed I'd have necessarily chosen with young kids, if the kids had come before the dog we probably wouldn't have had him. I've been looking for a pup, on and off and I'd be happy enough with any medium size breed or cross breed but I wouldn't consider any bull dog type, not because they're all dangerous but because many of them can be.
 
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captainpish

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I agree with banning them to be fair. For every responsible owner theres two chavvy wankers who uses it as a weapon. If you were to be a regular visitor to Liveleak you would have seen hundreds of videos over the years of what damage those dogs can do. They just dont let go. Metal bars to the head dont bother them at all. If those dogs get hold of a child its devastating. The problem isnt the temperament of the dog, ive seen plenty of small breeds that are far more aggressive than staffies, its the damage they do when they do flip out.
My parents neighbour have a staffie thats got out over a fence three times and each time savaged a dog, it killed one. The police didnt care and told my dad who tried to pull it off to ring the rspca. Ill be honest, when i take my kids out onto the field at the back i always take my work knife because if it grabs one of my kids i know the only thing that will stop it tearing off my kids face is to slit its throat.
 
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Thehooperman

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Any dog can be dangerous if they aren't trained and controlled properly.

It's the owners that treat staffies as trophy dogs and train them to be aggressive that need banning not the dog.

Also the media automatically associate any attack on a child to a staffie. Thr BBC do it every time and most of the time they are wromg. The media's ignorance of recognising the type of dog doesn't help the staffie's reputation.

I do accept that there are staffie attacks and they can cause serious damage but the majority are soft as shit and well behaved if trained properly.
 

captainpish

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Any dog can be dangerous if they aren't trained and controlled properly.

It's the owners that treat staffies as trophy dogs and train them to be aggressive that need banning not the dog.

Also the media automatically associate any attack on a child to a staffie. Thr BBC do it every time and most of the time they are wromg. The media's ignorance of recognising the type of dog doesn't help the staffie's reputation.

I do accept that there are staffie attacks and they can cause serious damage but the majority are soft as shit and well behaved if trained properly.

Try telling that to someone whos had their face ruined by a staffy. " i know you have no face or trachea but the majority of staffys are soft as shit, its the owners fault". Or perhaps a parent whos lost a child to a dangerous dog. Im sorry but its not the owners fault that they have heads like concrete blocks and jaws with a grip comparable to a crocodile and will pretty much not let go until theyve either torn off the flesh they are holding or are executed. Im afraid thats all down to genetics. I dont care how well the owners have it trained, if its instincts kick in youre in serious trouble.
How many people do you hear have been maimed or killed by labradors or spaniels? Its the damn breed. It really is that simple.
The staffy next door to my parents is soft as shit and well trained but guess what? When the mood takes it and it knows theres another dog over the fence theres no stopping it.
 

gilesjuk

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My dog was injured by a Scotty dog. Big cut on his front leg. Small yappy dogs can be the most aggressive.
 

Thehooperman

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Try telling that to someone whos had their face ruined by a staffy. " i know you have no face or trachea but the majority of staffys are soft as shit, its the owners fault". Or perhaps a parent whos lost a child to a dangerous dog. Im sorry but its not the owners fault that they have heads like concrete blocks and jaws with a grip comparable to a crocodile and will pretty much not let go until theyve either torn off the flesh they are holding or are executed. Im afraid thats all down to genetics. I dont care how well the owners have it trained, if its instincts kick in youre in serious trouble.
How many people do you hear have been maimed or killed by labradors or spaniels? Its the damn breed. It really is that simple.
The staffy next door to my parents is soft as shit and well trained but guess what? When the mood takes it and it knows theres another dog over the fence theres no stopping it.

And I've got a neighbour who's two jack russels yap all day, jump over the fence and attack anything or anyone who's passing.

I'm sorry but it is all down to the owners and how the dog has been trained and is managed.

Get control of the rogue owners and then see where the problem actually is.
 
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