Stafford Hospital Scandal to be turned into a drama

Gareth said:

Thanks for confirming my point. Issues started in 2004/ 2005...under Labour

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And of course there were no NHS negligence scandals under the Tory's were there? Good job we weren't living in Gosport at the time, eh?

It is irrelevant which party were in power, the problems with the NHS are down to
negligence and poor management in my opinion and the amount of funding is unlikely to change such cultures.

Gareth said:

Thanks for confirming my point. Issues started in 2004/ 2005...under Labour

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And the tories did an amazing job of fixing those issues once they gained power again, can't complain about issues with services if there ain't a service to start with!

Gareth said:

Thanks for confirming my point. Issues started in 2004/ 2005...under Labour

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I think you'll find things were going wrong in the previous decade, although it's hard to believe that the Tories were at fault for anything, of course.

Great, no doubt they'll make out how amazing that "women" was

Farce, bet "the women" will be loving more attention

Had a great trip to stoke hospital other week, couldn't even find the train station home, and my phone had died, not to mention I was stuck sitting down no bed just in a chair.. when I really wasn't in a good way at all!

Thankfully not had any hospital visits for years before that, but always remember stafford being not a problem, (well lets face it if you're in hospital it's not nice anyway but I didn't have any extra problems)

Stoke was rather packed..

Personally I could do without the whole DGH shit being dragged up again. My mum died up there almost 12yrs ago, mainly we believe, through neglect.
The staff at the time didn't seem to care about the patients, all were content to just sit at the nurses station having a chops and giggling.
Cleaners weren't much better, the crap that was under her bed when she was admitted, was still there 3 weeks later when she died.
Part of me is grateful to JB for kicking up a stink like she did. Lessons were learnt and hopefully the situation will never arise again. It's a crying shame we lost the departments that we did tho, we need the A&E back full time, along with maternity etc. Pigs may fly first.

I can't wait until they release 'SDGH: The Musical'.

Shortly Before the scandal broke I had cause to complain about the treatment of my mother, however, I found JB’s tantrums counterproductive and fed right into the hands of an agenda. Yes things needed sorting but not to the extent of eradicating the whole service !

Pooryorick said:

I think you'll find things were going wrong in the previous decade, although it's hard to believe that the Tories were at fault for anything, of course.

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That is conjecture and we should only deal with relevant facts, at least with the dates where the real/ worst concerns have been reviewed.

In ref to another post, I never said there were no issues under conservative and they seem to have no idea nor insight to make the nhs better. But the issues under Labour at a time when cash was flush was and is concerning

The whole NHS system is a mess and has been ever since it was decided that it should be run as a business rather than what it was created to do... care for the sick.
yes , its a bottomless pit regarding cash and we have to accept that we have to fund it one way or the other.

for example my daughter has tonsillitis , the infection has gotten worse even after 2 courses of antibiotics and needed to see the doctor again this morning only to be told that theres no appointments again.
after ringing 111 , she was called back shortly after and told to head to royal stoke hospital as theres been an emergency appt set up for her.
once seen , she was forwarded to accident and emergency and is still awaiting treatment as i type this.
Shes been given treatment for her breathing as it seems the infection has spread to her chest and also been given an ECG .
im awaiting more news soon as to what happens next.

I cant begin to imagine how much that has cost the NHS today and it reminds me how fortunate we are to have this service at our disposal , i just wish the powers that be would fund it properly before we lose it altogether.
If they had in the first place , stafford's hospital would be in a much better place to manage.

Gareth said:

In ref to another post, I never said there were no issues under conservative and they seem to have no idea nor insight to make the nhs better.

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"Well as long as labour don't get in as all this (as with masses of other hospitals) was under their watch"

Of course you didn't!!!

Hold on, first off I am not talking every cade in history, but there are dozens of cases 1000s of victims and more coming forward throughout the 2000s, virtually all under Labours watch or started there, in particular Stafford.

How can conservatives be blamed for something under another party. Are their hands clean.....no, as they had a chance to put it right and they haven't and nhs is under severe strain. But we can say (what we know at least), the under handed treatment of the masses is not the normal anymore, it is not hidden away and accepted and no longer can the mistreatment and lack care of patients be tolerated.

As a Labour voter all my life, bar the last 2 elections ( I didn't vote last time) it pains me to say it, but it is on them. They didn't do enough, they didn't care enough and they were bloody well aware all a long, the only ones less culpable are those directly involved.

Oh gosh! I’m all for the NHS but it is run so inefficiently & incompetently it is beyond belief!

darben said:

Oh gosh! I’m all for the NHS but it is run so inefficiently & incompetently it is beyond belief!

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Well now that half the services are privately run you need a referral from your referral before you can get a referral for the treatment the first guy used to give you.

I unwittingly saw a bit of a programme today where they had discovered sets of operating equipment had gone missing and after an investigation we’ll over a million pounds worth of the stuff was stolen by one person, I mean how on earth can they be so tardy!

One million employees?

Some problems with pinching?

Shocked!


When a third of the NHS budget goes into marketing and profits for Branson and co thanks to all our politicians you can only weep

Party Politics should be outlawed

Corrupt cartels , the lot

Gareth said:

How can conservatives be blamed for something under another party. Are their hands clean.....no, as they had a chance to put it right and they haven't and nhs is under severe strain. But we can say (what we know at least), the under handed treatment of the masses is not the normal anymore, it is not hidden away and accepted and no longer can the mistreatment and lack care of patients be tolerated.

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Well I can personally attest that my recovery from a broken hip 2 years ago has been hampered by the constant need for referrals and the delays in receiving proper physio. A totally ineffective system based solely on budgets created by, guess who?, the Tory's.

And this is well after the Stafford hospital scandal and is not the only example of how ineffective and inefficient the NHS is under any government.

I needed physio last year. Doctors no longer had one due to budget cuts so had to refer me to one of Bransons lot, who told me she used to work for the NHS but got moved when it was privitised. I'm curious where the savings are when Branson now makes a profit on top?

I think they are probably marginal and largely administrative. I guess if pensions transfer to new employer that’s potentially a big long term saving given nhs pensions are usually better than average

We send the EU £350 million a week.

Let's fund US Healthcare Companies instead.

Tilly said:

profits for Branson

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tek-monkey said:

...Bransons ... Branson...

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You know, when he was all about Tubular Bells and hot air balloons, I thought he might be an alright bloke...