A man of principle.

Really?

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It just amuses me that so many people "enter politics" because they want to "change things and make a difference to peoples lives". They then find out that, shock horror, it's not as easy as they thought, no one will actually listen to them and every other politician has their own agenda and politics at any level is actually nothing more than a career path. They always then find some "reason" to quit so that they can keep the moral high ground when they realise they are not suited to the career path they have chosen.

Before you start a job you should investigate the company. Politics is no different
 

Sir BoD

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Funny thing is I wouldn't trust Corbyn to take my Michael Foot replica donkey jacket to the dry cleaners....
Except there never was a donkey jacket - certainly if this is referencing the laying of the wreath at the Cenotaph. William Hague's baseball cap on the other hand......
 

basil

don't mention the blinds
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BobClay

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Maybe he got clobbered by a giant incoming asteroid. It's worked on other dinosaurs … :heyhey:
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Have you seen the Labour Party/Momentum/Corbynites. I think oddballs is being very polite.
Yup, and currently I see no better option. I'm watching our current leaders literally arse feck the country dry with a run up, every day I see something that even Thatcher wouldn't have dared to do, and I'm seeing absolute retards defend things like getting rid of the ECHR because they think it means brown people get more money than them. The country is in a nosedive because cretins believe newspapers, so yeah trusting someone the newspapers don't seems a logical step right now.

Because who is better? Please show your working out, no marks for any phrase used in a newspaper headline.
 

joshua

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If you look at the background and history of Corbyn and McDonnell their entire careers have been about overthrowing capitalism. They’re trying hard to hide some of their past and to appear way more moderate than they truly are. McDonnell is very good at this, he looks like your friendly reasonable local bank manager at the moment rather then the hate filled extremist he truly is. Make no mistake there’s a terrifying shadow manifesto here that’s intended to lead to some form of communism. If they do get into power that’s the culmination of their lifetime ambition and make no mistake they will implement some very extreme stuff, there’s no way they’re going soft if their one chance comes.
The hard left now owns most of the decision making parts of the Labour Party and as they continue deselection then if they ever did come to power with a majority and we’re outside of the E.U. then there’s nothing to stop them implementing hard left policies, draconian asset grabs, taxation/nationalisation which is really confiscation, ballooning public spending and debt, etc etc etc.....
Putting Corbyn and McDonnell into power actually scares the life out of me. Corbyn does not have the intellect to do the job and the number of times I have seen McDonell’s mask slip is concerning - he comes across to me as if his primary objective is to punish the rich whatever the cost rather than help the poor. Momentum’s grasp of the Labour party and the purges going on at the grass roots of the Labour party are also ringing alarm bells. I fear that, once in power, Corbyn would be ousted as leader as soon as momentum could manage it and the true face of McDonnell et al would emerge. The result would make the the 70’s catastrophe look like a walk in the park.

Unfortunately, the current Tory administration is a complete shower of s
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te but do seem a lot less dangerous if completely inept in parts (did someone mention Grayling?) and, hopefully, can be recalibrated under a decent leader - if one emerges!

The centre ground does not have a champion at the moment and if the Liberal Democrats can’t make progress in the current political climate then there is no hope for them whatsoever.

This is a long winded way of saying that politics in this country has never been so woeful and it is difficult to see how it will improve in the near term but the current Labour party is, IMHO, not the way to go.
 

Gareth

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Whomever leads a party wot opposes the parasitic Conservatives can expect to be demonized by the media

The Pleborians drink it

Lol. Labour leadership is as inept as it comes. Clueless, no backbone, no manifesto, confusing, blind, brain dead...etc etc etc, that is from someone who has voted mostly labour.

We have the worst government and leader in my lifetime, the opposition should be way ahead in the polls, but they do not strike where it hurts, because they have nothing to strike with. Politics is at its most embarrassing low
 

Gramaisc

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I've been outside this country for the last three weeks, it looks a lot worse from out there.

This is like watching the Soviet Union collapse, except there's no Gorbachev, just a choice of Yelstins.

I wonder who the Putin is going to be?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
I've been outside this country for the last three weeks, it looks a lot worse from out there.

This is like watching the Soviet Union collapse, except there's no Gorbachev, just a choice of Yelstins.

I wonder who the Putin is going to be?

General consensus I've had while travelling lately is that we're in a competition with the USA for worlds biggest dickheads.
 
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