Homeless in Stafford Town

GeneralGreivous

A few posts under my belt
As someone who swings significantly to the right I have to say that this forum on the whole is in my view overwhelmingly left wing.

However as a group people here are respectful of each-others views, we all live in or have an interest in Stafford and its surrounding areas and I think its a shame if members feel the need to segregate themselves from views that are politically different than their own.

Anyway, welcome to the forum :)
Again I wouldn't consider myself as segregating. That would indicate I would be unwilling to even consider opposing views which isn't correct.

To be honest I probably won't post much unless a particular topic sets my inner rage off again for an mostly unspoken group of society.

Thanks for the welcome though :)
 

cj1

Well-Known Forumite
Don't let any annoying facts get in the way of your prejudices will you?

That is the cost of not knowing not the cost of brexit which hasn't happened. Once brexit happens and real economic data is available around 5-10 years after brexit we will then know the profit or loss of brexit. Certainty is needed in business one way or the other. Business can't adapt if the don't know what they are adapting to.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
One of the leading Brexit heads suggested 50 years to see an upside, but he's rich so will be fine. Oh, and moved his investment fund to the EU as he thinks the UK will tank.
 

ATJ

Well-Known Forumite
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic.../07/how-left-or-right-wing-are-uks-newspapers

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Get out of here with your data and facts. We're sick of experts dontchaknow
 

Noah

Well-Known Forumite
After an interesting digression on political leanings, back very vaguely onto topic. It is worth pointing out that homeless and rough sleepers are not the same thing. Some homeless people are not rough sleepers and by no means all rough sleepers are homeless.
 

Tumble weed

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I'm more concerned about the ever growing piles of clothing in shop doorways, all it's going to take is a stray cigarette blowing in the wind, and that's half the precinct gone.

Something seriously needs to be done about the state of affairs , or come winter, they'll be bodies about town.
 

ATJ

Well-Known Forumite
I suspect many people would rather see bodies in town than their tax money used to help them, much better to fund tax cuts for billionaires :(

Come on now, I think their version of 'something must be done' extends to having taxes pay for carts and bells for bringing out the dead.
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
If we didn't have this problem 10 years ago but we do now, something changed. A lot of us can see it. When it comes to political leanings - a lot of those that lean right will take a view of "get them off the streets, it's their fault they are there", while a lot that lean left will be thinking "austerity has affected society and the support structure has been cut so the consequences are obvious. How do we fix it?"

Until you look at a cause, you forever point the finger at a problem without solving it.
 

Tilly

Well-Known Forumite
That is the cost of not knowing not the cost of brexit which hasn't happened. Once brexit happens and real economic data is available around 5-10 years after brexit we will then know the profit or loss of brexit. Certainty is needed in business one way or the other. Business can't adapt if the don't know what they are adapting to.


How high

Are your pies

In the sky




See cognitive dissonance on back of pack for full details
 

Tilly

Well-Known Forumite
Half the problem comes from Stoke , with their suppliers of monkey dust, and the dust heads.

Narcissist ski trails

A coconut half empty kind of town

Let's point a finger

Up North

Westminster is a pure place these days

Love looks through a telescope

Envy, through a microscope
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Half the problem comes from Stoke , with their suppliers of monkey dust, and the dust heads.

AFAIK monkey dust isn't really a stoke thing as such, it's similar to many other synthetics being peddling across the country. If we were nearer to Manchester we'd have a spice problem, it's just those at their lowest taking the cheapest escape they can. The best way to treat an addiction is to remove the need to escape, instead we're cutting the support that would do that. Things will get worse :(
 

Tilly

Well-Known Forumite
AFAIK monkey dust isn't really a stoke thing as such, it's similar to many other synthetics being peddling across the country. If we were nearer to Manchester we'd have a spice problem, it's just those at their lowest taking the cheapest escape they can. The best way to treat an addiction is to remove the need to escape, instead we're cutting the support that would do that. Things will get worse :(

This

And much more
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
I spent last night in the South end of the town centre, so walked through part of Victoria Park on the way home. Some have migrated to the pathway and grass at the Newport Road end of the park.
I've already seen some fellas inside the fenced area off Station Road, with a box of beer so maybe the security needs upping.
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
Following my post above, it would appear that "some have not migrated to the park" - A kind hearted lady took a complete stranger from the high street, to a place of relative safety after he had received a beating and could not get home. In this day and age, somebody taking time to help somebody in need, and give them an hour of your time to make sure they are safer than they were, is commendable. Hope the fella is ok.
Proof that things are not always as they initially appear.
 
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