Stafford as a concrete jungle.....

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Just been reading tonights Stafford free paper (think it was the Post) about all of these houses they are supposed to be building.

I noticed that thet are looking at building 2300 (iirc) houses on Burleyfields which is basically a green field site over the other side of Castlefields from the Newport Road....

Maybe its a bit of NIMBYism, but I am really p*ss*d off (to put it mildly) that they are going to build so many houses on a green field site in a nice area of Stafford when there are so many old factories etc that could be knocked down to accomodate the houses.

It is a commonly known fact (that I just made up) that high density housing breeds anti-social bahaviour and chavs. Castlefields is a nice area - don't get me wrong we get chavs up her racing their cars but on the whole its a good place to live so close to town....

If anyone wants to view the rest of the sites and have their say then this is the link to do it on:

http://www.staffordbc.gov.uk/static/page6343.htm

It takes the p*ss when the government says "you must build this many houses" and the local council has to do it or else.....

I'm going to bed before I forget to **** some swear words out and get banned....
 
tek-monkey

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Eh? Doesn't that link say (in bold) no decisions have been taken about where the new homes will be built?
 
tek-monkey

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OK, having looked around I can see that allocation has been made there. But there is an area twice that side allocated at Parkside for the same thing, any reason they should get it but you shouldn't? Where are these factories that are disused, that would provide the same space and accessibility that these sites would? The fact is, we have too many people for the current amount of houses. So what do we do?

If we don't build more houses, then we stay in a situation where houses are so sought after that the vast majority can't afford them, is this a good situation? Depends on whether you are already on the property ladder or not I suppose.


EDIT: Are you talking about the allocations, or current commitments?
 
tek-monkey

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Was thinking exactly that when looking at the maps TBH. And the bit around the uni, and a chunk of Doxey among other places. The fact is more people require more homes. So either stop immigration and limit breeding, or build more places to live.
 
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tek-monkey said:
limit breeding
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One thing China got right.....

In answer to your posts tek (well your second post anyway, think my OP answered your first) I don't know the name of the factory but it is between Castlefields / Castletown and Doxey. I think from the link they already have planning permission for it but haven't built there yet. So why start thinking about planning for green fields when they have that site already approved.

There is all of the old St Georges site.... lets build more shops and offices to make the town centre even more dead that it already is, or think logically and build some houses too.....

Another problem is its not purely the increase in population making the requirement for more houses, its single people living in 2 bedroom houses, couples living in 3 bedroom houses (this includes me and my other half) etc.... Now for me, our house was all that was available in the area we wanted to live... it was either a three bedroomed terrace for £125k or a 1 bedroom flat for £140k duh!!!

I have seen lots of other places that could be knocked down to use as houses too but I don't know Stafford areas that well... where the old Hyaundai garage is by the Hop Pole pub, that area has a few old deserted buildings....
 
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gk141054 said:
tek-monkey said:
limit breeding
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One thing China got right.....
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Hmmm debateable.

Limit breeding to only those who can support themselves and their children without any help whatsoever from the state. I honestly think that would cut the rate of births by at least 75% although I suspect more.

Personally I don't see what the problem is building houses within the town boundaries, however as mentioned earlier, dense housing creates problems so spread it out a bit. Also stop the absurd law that all new housing plots have to have 11% (or whatever) social housing.

Build seperate social housing areas, dossers can go to highfields and the genuinely ill can have a nice new plot to themselves. This will also help to keep house prices stable.

Saying that I can't complain, I live on Peter James Court and all the social flats are allocated to the elderly - not a chav/giro in sight!

Shoes
 
tek-monkey

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gk141054 said:
I think from the link they already have planning permission for it but haven't built there yet. So why start thinking about planning for green fields when they have that site already approved.
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But thats the same for all areas mentioned so far in this thread isn't it? Planning is already either commited or its been allocated, so where else should they build? They don't just choose a site each week to build on, permission is given a long time before the bulldozers roll in. So in effect your link answered your issues - those brownfield sites are already earmarked and they are looking further afield.
 
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shoes said:
gk141054 said:
tek-monkey said:
limit breeding
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One thing China got right.....
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Hmmm debateable.

Limit breeding to only those who can support themselves and their children without any help whatsoever from the state.
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He he, I thought that comment might cause a stir, but to be fair, your thoughts on the matter were a lot better and I agree totally with the above.
 
shoes

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The China thing would have worked had they thought about how their cultural beliefs would have made people make the (son) choices that they did. I can't see that happening over here and think its a good idea.

Better still, only those that can afford it AND one child each. We have enough hard working immigrants to make up the tax defecit in a few years :up:
 
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I remember Castlefields when it was a couple of greenfields too!
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And me too, its a well known fact that there is a major housing shortage and whilst the government has expressed preference for former brownfield sites to be developed into housing, this may not always be possible, after all where is Stafford is there left that was a brownfield site to build on i.e. Lotus, BRC, Stychfields etc
 
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