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WoolmanT

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The Hawk said:
I am glad that you are contributing and I hope that everyone who responds to you does so appropriately. Yes, your views do differ from many on here, but that certainly does not mean that you aren't entitled to hold them.

You will have already got a flavour of the reasons why many individuals objected to the location of the new rugby club; indeed, when an organisation (the RSPB) with over a million members objects, alarm bells should start ringing. It was certainly not a vendetta against the rugby club, merely people trying to protect one of the most important wildlife habitats in the UK, which attract visitors from across the UK and even beyond. And that's without considering the flood implications for the rest of the town (due to water displacement).


I think the answer, to what should the rugby club have done, has been made above, it should have pushed for an alternative location; it would have received a lot of support if it had gone down that route; don't forget moving the club from its old location was an important piece of a massive development jigsaw. A way would have been found to find an alternative location.

However, we are where we are and we all need to try and move forwards. You do come across as someone having an interest in the local wildlife and you do need to take that forward. At the very least I would expect the rugby club to engage with Staffordshire Wildlife Trust, to see what can be done to mitigate the impact of the rugby club as much as possible. I would also hope that some sort of partnership arrangement could be developed, to the benefit of all.

In moving to your new location, you don't have to accept that you were wrong. However, you do need to accept that many other people thought you were wrong and look to ways of rebuilding relationships.
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Thank you for the constructive feedback. You are right, engaging with the SWT is a very good idea and something that I will start the ball rolling with today. I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks, Tim
 
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WoolmanT

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Pooryorick said:
The floodlights certainly live up to their name in one sense. Minimal spread outside pitches? Hmm.
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Pooryorick said:
The floodlights certainly live up to their name in one sense. Minimal spread outside pitches? Hmm.
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It’s on our list, we’ll get there - meeting the residents association from Castle Town & Virginia Park at the Railway Inn at 7pm tomorrow. If people have issues to discuss, feel free to attend. Thanks
 
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Withnail

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WoolmanT said:
You may not agree with the location but it’s not going anywhere, so we plan to make the best of it
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Without wishing to labour the point too much, the fact that it is a fait accompli is not much of an argument in and of itself.
WoolmanT said:
... it’s common sense, some people don’t like the location - there is absolutely nothing we can do about it, so let’s crack on.
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Rather like if i came round to your house and told you i was going to take a shit in your bed - please don't shit in my bed, you might say - but i go ahead and shit in it anyway. Now you have a shitted bed - you might not like the location of the shit, but there is now nothing we can do about it. Shall we crack on and have an early night?

It is what it is now, but you can't expect everyone to just 'crack on' - to me this is an actual disaster. A micro one, perhaps, but if we do keep doing hundreds of things 1% worse, there will inevitably be a debit to our collective account.
 
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WoolmanT

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Withnail said:
Without wishing to labour the point too much, the fact that it is a fait accompli is not much of an argument in and of itself.

Rather like if i came round to your house and told you i was going to take a shit in your bed - please don't shit in my bed, you might say - but i go ahead and shit in it anyway. Now you have a shitted bed - you might not like the location of the shit, but there is now nothing we can do about it. Shall we crack on and have an early night?

It is what it is now, but you can't expect everyone to just 'crack on' - to me this is an actual disaster. A micro one, perhaps, but if we do keep doing hundreds of things 1% worse, there will inevitably be a debit to our collective account.
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Out of everyone who has disagreed with me on here, you are without a shadow of a shit, sorry, a doubt, the one person who I hope turns up tomorrow or at the club, I look forward to meeting you. I’m sorry if you view it as a disaster but I’m open to discussing and moving forward, your call
 
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Pooryorick

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WoolmanT said:
It’s on our list, we’ll get there - meeting the residents association from Castle Town & Virginia Park at the Railway Inn at 7pm tomorrow. If people have issues to discuss, feel free to attend. Thanks
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The lights are something else that the planners didn't evaluate properly, allegedly.

Anyway, why is the meeting in the Railway when there's a posh new venue just across the pond?
 
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Gareth

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But there is no forward to move in to, you have already occupied it.

There is literally nothing to discuss - it is what it is now you are where you are.

You shat in my bed, and you want me to like it. And i won't.
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Headline....keyboard warrior shit scared of losing anonymity.... lol
 
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WoolmanT

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PeterD said:
Is this the rugby club way, if you don't like criticism make veiled threats? Get backed up by the misery from the Riverside. Having Gareth as your cheerleader is not a badge of honour trust me on that.
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What veiled threats? I have absolute zero issue with criticism and putting my hand up we have made a mistake. You’ve lost me with the get backed up by the misery from the Riverside?
 
PeterD

PeterD

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WoolmanT said:
What veiled threats? I have absolute zero issue with criticism and putting my hand up we have made a mistake. You’ve lost me with the get backed up by the misery from the Riverside?
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Out of everyone who has disagreed with me on here, you are without a shadow of a shit, sorry, a doubt, the one person who I hope turns up tomorrow or at the club, I look forward to meeting you
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He was no where to be seen......ruined my night, maybe next month
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You absolutely know what you were getting at there, a school kid "say it to my face". Ridiculous. And no I dont want to say it to your face, or meet with you.
 
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WoolmanT

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PeterD said:
You absolutely know what you were getting at there, a school kid "say it to my face". Ridiculous. And no I dont want to say it to your face, or meet with you.
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Apologies but you have misinterpreted a joke / response to a pretty witty comment as a veiled threat?!
And any dealings I have had in person with residents or people who have got an issue with the club have been conducted in an open, placatory manner. Why be any other way?
I’m getting to the point that it doesn’t matter what I say or do, you’ll misinterpret it to feed your negative views on the rugby club......I’m in a bit of a no win situation
 
Jonah

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
The written word is interpreted in the way the reader sees it. When I read your comment @WoolmanT I thought it was close to bordering on a veiled threat but I thought 'surely not'. Only you know exactly what you meant.

In my opinion, the situation with the rugby club move has been a failure on all sides.
 
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Thehooperman

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WoolmanT said:
I’m getting to the point that it doesn’t matter what I say or do, you’ll misinterpret it to feed your negative views on the rugby club......I’m in a bit of a no win situation
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I'm sure those who were objecting to the location feel exactly the same.

The losers out of all of this is the wildlife that would have inhabited the land the rugby club is now on not any particular individuals.
 
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WoolmanT

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Jonah said:
The written word is interpreted in the way the reader sees it. When I read your comment @WoolmanT I thought it was close to bordering on a veiled threat but I thought 'surely not'. Only you know exactly what you meant.

In my opinion, the situation with the rugby club move has been a failure on all sides.
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Thanks for your note @Jonah, it’s appreciated.
A veiled threat couldn’t be further from the truth. I am always up for discussing situations to make the best of them. We move in, we invite all the residents in for food, a drink and Q&A session, we attend the local residents meeting......all with an open view to discuss a positive way forward - people that know me certainly wouldn’t describe me as threatening. Someone suggests we engage with Staffs Wildlife Trust, great idea, meeting arranged. Trust me, we are trying.
Your opinion obviously differs from mine regarding the success or failure of the move - I hope we prove people wrong, we come in peace as they say
 
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