2019 General Election

Tilly

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They're @£$%ing pathetic aren't they ! I think the Chuckle Brothers could have mounted a more dignified campaign.
On a more serious note, wonder when the tories will spring their 'Zinoviev Letter' ?


They've being doing that for so long, the media can now longer see that they are the joint sympathetic forces of evil
 

BobClay

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One thing you can say about the Daily Mail is it is consistent. In the 30's every time Hitler and his cronies were mentioned, the Daily Mail dropped it's pants and flopped over the desk in submission. They thought the Sun shone out of his arse, and hopefully up theirs.

Some things never change. :(
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
John Ashworth, saying what we all already know about Corbyn.

Under just about any other Labour leader a change of government would have been a racing certainty in these circumstances.

That's the real tragedy.
 

Mikinton

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John Ashworth, saying what we all already know about Corbyn.

Under just about any other Labour leader a change of government would have been a racing certainty in these circumstances.

That's the real tragedy.
Given the balls-up Theresa May's team made of the 2017 General Election, any decent Labour leader would have already have been in power.

Meanwhile on Twitter, I've been blocked by Angela Rayner. I didn't realise she even read my tweets.
 
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Mikinton

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The postal vote is massive, and the postal voters are generally the old, and the old who actually vote are by a large majority, Conservatives

They've already voted . It's done
Some stats on postal votes ...

"Most are returned within a week of sending. In GE2017 across the UK 21.6% of votes were postal votes, and postal vote turnout was 85.1% against mid-sixties for on-the-day voting." https://twitter.com/MRJKilcoyne/status/1201558837871992833

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So half of the North-East will have been unaffected by the shenanigans of the last couple of days as they'll already have voted.
 

bunique

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Those are staggeringly high rates of postal voting. Makes sense now why those constituencies are often first to declare.

Anyway, YouGov has Stafford remaining blue by about 10%.
 

Withnail

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Given the balls-up Theresa May's team made of the 2017 General Election, any decent Labour leader would have already have been in power.
This is half true - May made a fundamental error in '17, or rather many fundamental errors, but most of them predicated on the same one that BoZo has made in this one.

Old men and boys - Market Garden - pew-pew-pew - d'ya wanna see my Spitfire?

Never underestimate your opponent - no plan survives first contact with the enemy.

May was made to think that she was a shoe-in, which made her think that she could shoe-horn all sorts of unpalatable, but arguably necessary, policies into a manifesto that could thus be retro-fitted. It didn't work.

BoZo was made to think he is a shoe-in, but this time because he didn't actually have to promise any policies at all, just to be his lovable self - comparable to Churchill he is presumed to be some sort of oratorial Collosus - all he had to do was turn up.

It's not working, because BoZo is actually a f**kin' liability who is almost incapable of speech in any sort of normally accepted standard of the term.

You didn't hear it here first, you heard it every time he opened his mouth over the last ten years but for some unknown reason preferred the BBC's version of what happened in front of your very ears than that that appeared before your own.

But we are where we are...

If anybody is still floating in the Stafford constituency, please be aware that it is very unlikely that, Nationally, there will be a Labour Majority; it is still more than possible that there will be a Conservative Majority.

What we need is neither, what we need is Minority Government - vote Labour in Stafford tomorrow to make it more likely.

This has been brought to you by the 'F*ck That' faction.
 

Lucy

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If anybody is still floating in the Stafford constituency, please be aware that it is very unlikely that, Nationally, there will be a Labour Majority; it is still more than possible that there will be a Conservative Majority.

What we need is neither, what we need is Minority Government - vote Labour in Stafford tomorrow to make it more likely.

This has been brought to you by the 'F*ck That' faction.

This bit is really important. So many people have said to me they don't like Corbyn, forgetting the alternative. Labour will have to be propped up by SNP at least, making it likely we'll get more centrist policies
 

Mikinton

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This bit is really important. So many people have said to me they don't like Corbyn, forgetting the alternative. Labour will have to be propped up by SNP at least, making it likely we'll get more centrist policies
.... and Indyref2.

I've often thought of suggesting to Nicola that they run a few SNP candidates in English constituencies. I'm sure there's be a lot of support from the Sassenachs for them "making their own way in the world".

ETA I'm sure the bit in quotes is expressed in more colourful language South of the border.
 
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Lucy

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Can you blame a country who voted to stay in the EU to not want to stay part of somewhere that's going to crash out? I think by having a second referendum Indyref2 may well not happen.
 
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Mikinton

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Can you blame a country who voted to stay in the EU to not want to stay part of somewhere that's going to crash out? I think by having a second referendum Indyref2 may well not happen.
I wouldn't disagree, though even if the UK stays in the EU, I imagine the SNP will still be pushing for independence. It is their USP after all. Presumably support among the Scots for independence will drop off (already hovering just above the 50% mark) and the issue goes onto the back burner to be resurrected in 20 years time.
 
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