Coronavirus.

Thehooperman

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I live in holmcroft, and judging by the increase in local activity over the last few days I can see another wave coming.

EDIT: I saw this through my window today

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Is that a giant turd with a head that's coughing on the budgie with a broken neck?
 

cj1

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we are well past the peak deaths peaked April 8th. we can't keep living like this forever. we need to ensure the cure is not worse than the disease. when the lockdown is lifted nobody will force you to leave your home. if you don't think it's appropriate you can continue your life in lockdown. social distancing, shielding and personal responsibility can keep the R0 below 1. people are hoping a vaccine is just around the corner but there is no guarantee we will ever get one. there is still no vaccine for the common cold for example.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
we are well past the peak deaths peaked April 8th. we can't keep living like this forever. we need to ensure the cure is not worse than the disease. when the lockdown is lifted nobody will force you to leave your home. if you don't think it's appropriate you can continue your life in lockdown. social distancing, shielding and personal responsibility can keep the R0 below 1. people are hoping a vaccine is just around the corner but there is no guarantee we will ever get one. there is still no vaccine for the common cold for example.

Not true, you will have to return to work so you will have to leave your home. Not that it matters what the rules are, judging by the amount of people out and about this weekend I suspect a new spike in maybe 3 weeks.
 

cj1

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You should consider yourself lucky. many don't have a job right now and the longer this lockdown continues the worse it will be. We need to look to the future and keep r0 below 1 in the least damaging way possible and lockdown isn't it. We need to learn to live with this beast and at present this isn't living.
 

littleme

250,000th poster!
You should consider yourself lucky. many don't have a job right now and the longer this lockdown continues the worse it will be. We need to look to the future and keep r0 below 1 in the least damaging way possible and lockdown isn't it. We need to learn to live with this beast and at present this isn't living.
Ohhh I'm really lucky, I'm going to work everyday where my friends are dropping like flies. Get a grip.
 

cj1

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If you have a roof over your head and food on the cupboard your doing better than some. As I've said before at some point there will be a trade-off and difficult decisions will need to be made between recession life years lost Vs covid19 life years.
 

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
if you don't think it's appropriate you can continue your life in lockdown.

... Continue my life in lock down?, some of us have had no choice but to continue our life, and have had no chance of lock down.

Self isolate??? I should be so bloody lucky!
As I work for the NHS, I've had carry on working, mixing with potentially infected people, luckily, if a patient has tested positive, they've been moved to an isolation ward immediately.
As for work colleagues, there has been one or two that have shown symptoms, but luckily tests came back negative.

Yes I chose this job, it wasn't forced on me, and you try explaining to someone with a mental health problem that they need to stay in their bedrooms till the results of swabs have come back. It's easier to knit fog while getting spat at and a good clout in the process.
 

Thehooperman

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You should consider yourself lucky. many don't have a job right now and the longer this lockdown continues the worse it will be. We need to look to the future and keep r0 below 1 in the least damaging way possible and lockdown isn't it. We need to learn to live with this beast and at present this isn't living.

Are you being serious or just winding people up to pass the time??
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
If you have a roof over your head and food on the cupboard your doing better than some. As I've said before at some point there will be a trade-off and difficult decisions will need to be made between recession life years lost Vs covid19 life years.
Anyone furloughed gets 80% pay, anyone already on benefits is not affected, the self employed are supposed to have a contingency plan anyway but can spend the tax they've put aside while they await their bailout. So who is it that suddenly has no roof over their head or food in their cupboard that suddenly would if lockdown was eased?

I don't know a single person that would rather see people dead now than people a bit poorer, but I don't generally associate with tories which possibly explains it. For every business that goes under someone that can run one better will start up, those going bust just weren't good enough, isn't that how capitalism 'works'?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
You should consider yourself lucky. many don't have a job right now and the longer this lockdown continues the worse it will be. We need to look to the future and keep r0 below 1 in the least damaging way possible and lockdown isn't it. We need to learn to live with this beast and at present this isn't living.

Out of interest how many do you know that were made redundant rather than furloughed? Our place rehired the two staff we'd made redundant the second furlough was announced because the government picks up the tab.
 

Mikinton

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This sounds like an opportune time to introduce something I suggested (somewhat tongue-in-cheek, TBF) when youth unemployment was at its highest, that we should start the State Pension for everyone from the age of 60, and make it illegal to employ someone over that age (though they could be self employed within certain restrictions).

The impression I get about the virus is that those most at risk of dying are those over the age of, say, 50 and those with underlying health problems. Anyone not in those groups who gets the virus is pretty much certain to recover. So within the employment restrictions I've described above, everyone under, say, 45 with no underlying health problems can return to work provided their employer follows the distancing guidelines etc; 45-60 year-olds and those with health problems get furloughed until there's a vaccine; those over 60, welcome to retirement - let's hope it's a long one.

The big problem with people going back to work, is not necessarily the worker themselves, who'll likely recover if they catch the virus, but to anyone "at risk" they may pass the virus on to. And I can't see any real alternative to those "at risk" having to permanently hunker down, at least until there's a vaccine.
 
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Mikinton

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Using the same argument killing a few brexit supporters before the referendum may have been a legitimate tactic?
Killing may be a bit "harsh". Better my suggestion that anyone old enough to vote in the first EU referendum would be ineligible to vote in 2016.
 
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