Coronavirus.

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cj1 said:
WHO are now recommending medical grade masks for sections of the general population. Yet the government are saying don't, make your own instead. if you must ware masks in certain conditions by law why would you not use a medical grade mask as the evidence now suggests these offer the best protection for yourself and others.
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From what I've read a mask is better at protecting others from you than you from others, simply because the airways are the viruses usual escape route but it's us touching things the virus is on that gives it to us. Personally I'm avoiding public transport, not that I have anywhere to go as furloughed til September and looking like redundancies then :(
 
The Hawk

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cj1 said:
WHO are now recommending medical grade masks for sections of the general population. Yet the government are saying don't, make your own instead. if you must ware masks in certain conditions by law why would you not use a medical grade mask as the evidence now suggests these offer the best protection for yourself and others.
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The government are concerned that if the public start stockpiling medical grade masks, then this would significantly impact on the NHS / care sector.

However, I have found that Chinese KN95 masks are readily available, as I believe they have not (yet) been signed off for use in the NHS (they are signed off in other countries, including the USA).
 
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cj1

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I've seen an advert today for N95 masks that are ”not from NHS supplies” so the NHS must have dedicated supply chains that I would expect to be protected.
I've not worn a mask yet preferring to keep 2m from all others but if I'm in a position where it is needed for safety I'd want one that gives the best protection as not catching it myself means I cannot pass it on to others. The WHO advice yesterday was that medical grade masks give protection to the user and should be worn by all at increased risk. They also state that none medical grade masks do offer some protection to others but very limited protection to the wearer. Something to keep in mind if your homemade mask causes you to touch you're face more often it increases your risk of catching it. And thereby spreading it. Also if you disregard social distancing because you have a mask on is also counter productive.
 
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cj1

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if anybody wants to help with tracking the virus with little effort on your part. (open an app every day and click I feel well/unwell, plus any followup questions as appropriate) then the c-19 tracker app could be for you. just downloaded it myself and tacks literally seconds a day to update. you can also take part in other studies but is of course entirely optional.

android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joinzoe.covid_zoe&hl=en_GB
apple https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/covid-symptom-study/id1503529611

about the app:
Help slow the spread of COVID-19 by self-reporting your symptoms daily, even if you feel well.


Join millions of people supporting scientists at King’s College London to help our health services by identifying:


* How fast the virus is spreading in your area

* High-risk areas in the UK

* Who is most at risk, by better understanding symptoms linked to underlying health conditions


You will contribute to advance research on COVID-19 in partnership with leading scientific institutions like King’s College London and TwinsUK, one of the most clinically detailed studies in the world.


This app (formerly known as the Covid Symptom Tracker) allows you to help others, but does not give health advice. If you need health advice please visit the NHS website at: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/


This app is designed by doctors and scientists at King's College London, Guys and St Thomas’ Hospitals and Zoe Global Limited, a health technology company.


If you would like to help out in this difficult time, then you can. Download the app and share daily your own status, even if you are well. With your help we can understand much better the situation up and down the country, how the disease presents itself to different people, and how it progresses.


This is a new virus which the UK has never seen before. There are a wide range of symptoms, which differ between people. With your help we can understand better how the disease presents itself depending upon individual factors such as health and age.


No information you share will be used for commercial purposes.


There are two parts to the app:


HEALTH INFORMATION

You will be asked to share some general information, such as your age and some health information, such as whether you have certain diseases.


SYMPTOM TRACKING

We will ask you every day to let us know how you feel, so you can share your symptoms. We will also ask whether you have visited the hospital, what treatment you received there, and whether you have been tested for COVID-19 (Coronavirus)
 
Cue

Cue

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After a bit more reading it seems when it says about opting for the test study, it’s basically just saying that if you do show any symptoms they’ll tell you to get a test and report back

ie if you’re reporting fine, you won’t get told to go take a test, but you might get the study invite
 
Glam

Glam

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Interesting conversation with 1 of the girls working at Sainsburys yesterday.

Due to the Coronavirus, there are many NHS workers working from home. (her brother, to name but 1) Using a laptop and mobile phone, they don't have to leave their warm and cosy houses, can sit around all day in their jimjams, watching Holly & Phil at the same time, if they want to. Where as those, like myself, a keyworker, go into the hospital everyday, face more challenges than those office bods sat at home, tea and coffee on tap etc.
Yet those sat at home can still go to the supermarkets at NHS hour, flash their cards, jump the main queue, get the bargains before those waiting outside, and be back home in their jimjams before you know it.
Unless you have a close look at the badges, you'd never know who is ward staff and who is sat at home with Holly et all.
 
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Glam said:
Interesting conversation with 1 of the girls working at Sainsburys yesterday.

Due to the Coronavirus, there are many NHS workers working from home. (her brother, to name but 1) Using a laptop and mobile phone, they don't have to leave their warm and cosy houses, can sit around all day in their jimjams, watching Holly & Phil at the same time, if they want to. Where as those, like myself, a keyworker, go into the hospital everyday, face more challenges than those office bods sat at home, tea and coffee on tap etc.
Yet those sat at home can still go to the supermarkets at NHS hour, flash their cards, jump the main queue, get the bargains before those waiting outside, and be back home in their jimjams before you know it.
Unless you have a close look at the badges, you'd never know who is ward staff and who is sat at home with Holly et all.
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Fair point but unless the office based staff were depriving the real front line workers of goodies or bargains I wouldn't expect shop staff to have to differentiate between badges to identify workers.

At the end of the day I think ALL key workers should get priority regardless of their role as they are facilitating the care and wellbeing of the rest of us.
 
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I don't agree with what you have posted I'm an NHS worker working from home as I'm shielding. I have never been so busy so stressed and exhausted. The TV isn't on. I have to make sure I have a 30 min break as the phone is constantly ringing or I'm ringing others. A lot of us nhs workers do not jump the queue as we don't want to take the piss...
I'm a retired nurse who has returned. Show some respect and be kind.
 
Cue

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Just procured a bunch of stuff so we can get back into the office, as WFH only goes so far for our line of work

Sanitiser dispensers and power towel dispensers are bloody expensive. Was also shocked to see how ridiculous a cartridge is for the ones Screwfix sell - £9 for the dispenser and £13 for the cartridge! To hell with that
 
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sandonia said:
I don't agree with what you have posted I'm an NHS worker working from home as I'm shielding. I have never been so busy so stressed and exhausted. The TV isn't on. I have to make sure I have a 30 min break as the phone is constantly ringing or I'm ringing others. A lot of us nhs workers do not jump the queue as we don't want to take the piss...
I'm a retired nurse who has returned. Show some respect and be kind.
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I'm afraid theres a lot of self importance and ignorance out there at the moment.

@sandonia ive never seen you post at all about how its affecting you and what you are giving at this difficult time. its people like you that i respect and i say thank you for all you are doing.

Never be afraid to speak your mind.

Stay safe.
 
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Glam said:
Interesting conversation with 1 of the girls working at Sainsburys yesterday.

Due to the Coronavirus, there are many NHS workers working from home. (her brother, to name but 1) Using a laptop and mobile phone, they don't have to leave their warm and cosy houses, can sit around all day in their jimjams, watching Holly & Phil at the same time, if they want to. Where as those, like myself, a keyworker, go into the hospital everyday, face more challenges than those office bods sat at home, tea and coffee on tap etc.
Yet those sat at home can still go to the supermarkets at NHS hour, flash their cards, jump the main queue, get the bargains before those waiting outside, and be back home in their jimjams before you know it.
Unless you have a close look at the badges, you'd never know who is ward staff and who is sat at home with Holly et all.
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You could almost be describing my S-I-L. NHS managerial position, no medical skills whatever. Flashes her ID at every opportunity to get preferential treatment. I don’t think she’s been into work since lockdown (not shielding). My wife works in food retail, has worked more hours since lockdown than before. I’ve worked since lockdown. Neither of us get priority at supermarkets etc & although we’ve used Tesco delivery every week since it started around Stafford we struggle to get either a delivery slot or even click & collect. It really does piss me off.
I’ve got no problem whatever with any true “ front line “ worker getting priority.
 
Glam

Glam

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EasMid said:
You could almost be describing my S-I-L. NHS managerial position, no medical skills whatever. Flashes her ID at every opportunity to get preferential treatment. I don’t think she’s been into work since lockdown (not shielding). My wife works in food retail, has worked more hours since lockdown than before. I’ve worked since lockdown. Neither of us get priority at supermarkets etc & although we’ve used Tesco delivery every week since it started around Stafford we struggle to get either a delivery slot or even click & collect. It really does piss me off.
I’ve got no problem whatever with any true “ front line “ worker getting priority.
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I have no problem with those shielding, after all, they're doing it for a reason, but to be sent home from work, due to the corona virus and then expect preferential treatment is a laugh.
We have a very very nice staff Bistro/Restaurant/canteen* at work, the majority of the food is beautiful, for want of another word.
But most of the ward staff are unable to access it, due to it opening at patients protected mealtime (12) and finishing hot food around the time the handover period finished (1.30ishhh), it's run mainly for the management and office bods. Unless your ward happens to be 5 minutes walk away and you can pop in quick, and hope there isn't a queue.

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