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littleme

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Felt very tired last night, sore arm through the night meant little sleep as I always sleep on that side. Other than that been OK TBH, my brother also said as soon as he went to bed his arm started hurting but he's been fine today too.
The carers not too good, no sleep last night & today he's generally achy & fatigued, also recons he has a lump on the right side of the back of his head (thinks its a swollen occipital lymph node) , that hurts, paracetamol isn't touching it. His ear feels funny too.
 

tek-monkey

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The carers not too good, no sleep last night & today he's generally achy & fatigued, also recons he has a lump on the right side of the back of his head (thinks its a swollen occipital lymph node) , that hurts, paracetamol isn't touching it. His ear feels funny too.
Not good, hope he's OK :(
I'm suddenly very tired again, but was out for 3 hours with the dogs.
 

staffordjas

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Just been announced in Press Conference by Jonathon Van Tam ......... Guidelines for Age group 18-29 is to now have just either Pfizer or Moderna , as risk of blood clotting with AstraZeneca is slightly higher in the younger age groups.
 

Lucy

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I wonder how prevalent blood clots are for people taking the contraceptive pill. Very high I'd imagine.
 

SketchyMagpie

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The contraceptive pill increases your chance of blood clots by two to six times. If you take the vaccine, you've still got significantly less chance of getting blood clots than if you caught Covid.

Vaccines are different from most other medicines in that you actually take them when you're well, hence the need to greater balance risk vs benefits in younger people who are less affected by the virus, whereas many of us take pills every day with equally scary side effects that also occur in tiny instances.
 

Cue

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Just been announced in Press Conference by Jonathon Van Tam ......... Guidelines for Age group 18-29 is to now have just either Pfizer or Moderna , as risk of blood clotting with AstraZeneca is slightly higher in the younger age groups.

Specifically, it’s Pfizer or Moderna where possible but AZ if not

It’s basically: the risk is incredibly small but might as well prioritise Pfizer and Moderna for under 30s to be extra safe
 

Thehooperman

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Specifically, it’s Pfizer or Moderna where possible but AZ if not

It’s basically: the risk is incredibly small but might as well prioritise Pfizer and Moderna for under 30s to be extra safe

Can I assume that they must have thought I was under 30 when they gave me Pfizer for my jab in Feb then? :)
 

staffordjas

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I could do with hubby having his 2nd dose of AstraZeneca soon. It stopped the usual rows about me putting the heating on.


He's usually hot all the time and can't stand the fire/ central heating on , but after his 1st AZ jab he was sitting working at home feeling freezing cold with a scarf around his neck for a few days.

Need him to have another shot of it to get the house nice and toasty hot again!:D
 
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Withnail

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Do you think that the Express or the Daily Hate, and the minions they drag in on this sort of thing, might rein in their outrage viz the European caution toward the AZ vaccine?

Or are they just going to pretend that they were skeptics all along, and this is now some sort of medical crisis?

@SketchyMagpie makes an important point that vaccination, alone of all medication that you will otherwise take, is pre-emptive - you take it instead of getting ill.

Which is inherently problematic because you might never have 'got' ill, in that particular way, over the course of your entire life, in the first place. Given that there are risks involved with taking any medication, what happens if the 'cure' for what you 'might' get carries a 'risk' in itself?

So then you have to quantify risk.

I am always up for an argument about the need for cyclists to wear helmets - lots of people think that it should be mandatory for cyclists to wear helmets, and they are, of course, completely wrong. There are all sorts of reasons why they are wrong, and they all boil down to risk.

This is because people, on the whole, do not understand risk. They do not understand 'absolute' risk, and they absolutely fail to understand 'relative' risk.

Have a bacon sandwich.
 
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ATJ

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Just been to pick up my boxes of take home tests. As long as they're mooting those stupid domestic covid passports I had better make sure I've got some in!

Kingston Centre was incredibly quiet today, unlike every other time I've been. No others waiting for tests - apparently everyone thinks the vaccine makes them invincible!
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
I am wondering how people will be able to prove they have had both jabs in order to get one of these Covid passports.
 

Lucy

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I can see my first one on the NHS app. I expect there will be some sort of vaccine or test for the short term for a lot of mass events.
 

staffordjas

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I can see my first one on the NHS app. I expect there will be some sort of vaccine or test for the short term for a lot of mass events.
Is that the NHS App or NHS Covid-19 app ? I need to download again but got several to choose from (had to knock original one off as phone stopped working , saying to delete Apps)
 
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