Another supermarket?

[scallywag]

I would love a Morrisons, save going to Stone every month. Their meat, fish and groceries are far superior and cheaper than those we have access to in Stafford

 

[henryscat]

i.e. if you make more roads, it makes "extra road capacity" (direct quote from above) which allows more people to make use of the road system.. therefore, there are people on the roads, filling up this extra capacity, who otherwise would not have been able to make their journey.. a clear benefit to these people..

Nope not a clear benefit in the slightest, you've spectacularly missed the point. You end up back at square one except with more cars, more pollution, and just as much congestion.

 

[henryscat]

Bit subjective that one.. high usage doesn't impact on environment. Emissions do and noise does but these can be addressed by greener cars.

Problem is that cars are least efficient in an urban environment and emissions are roughly in proportion to the volume of traffic. High levels of car use have all sorts of other effects too, like contribuiting to higher crime levels because people are cacooned in their cars rather than walking about the place.

I agree pedestrians are vulnerable, that's why they should be less interaction between traffic and pedestrians.. ie. take traffic out of the town centre by building a decent dual carriageway bypass around the town and build some larger retail along that ring road.

I'd agree with keeping cars out of town centres as far as possible. Pedestrianised town centres are far more pleasant than those that aren't. But dual carriageways (and other roads) do cause a lot of severance between communities.

But people don't like the alternatives...

This is very true. What needs to happen is that transport policy needs to favour the alternatives, instead of being skewed in favour of the car.

 

[shoes]

recently using park and ride in shrewsbury, chester and salcombe I am a big fan of them. with less cars clogging up the roads they would work even more efficiently.

 

[henryscat]

recently using park and ride in shrewsbury, chester and salcombe I am a big fan of them. with less cars clogging up the roads they would work even more efficiently.

Park and rides tend to work most effectively when you limit town centre car parking and make town centre car parking a lot more expensive. Even better if you can get some bus lanes in so the park and ride bus can whizz past the traffic or the bus can get further into town than cars are allowed. Have used one of the Shrewsbury P&Rs which seemed pretty busy. There's plenty of parking in Stafford and it's cheap or free in the case of retail parks/supermarkets.

 

[tek-monkey]

So stick supermarkets at the motorway junctions and put in park and rides, that way people can head into town too, plus the shoppers from town can easily get to the supermarket. Make the supermarket subsidise the buses as part of the deal, sorted.

 

[gilesjuk]

Depends how good and fast park n ride is. I know I could probably cycle from the Tech Park to the Town, do some shopping etc and cycle back quicker than a park n ride.