Campaign for the Join up of SCC and SBC (including solution for planning services)

Stafford

A few posts under my belt
Proposal bring together the Borough Council with Stafford County Council (aka SCC) and save a few quid on the number of councillors who oversee a planning dept who obviously fly in by Helicopter and don’t use the local roads.

Can we please have a decent forward plan for Stafford - when the Council is down to its last pennies - no Business rates = no money coming in - therefore the only other way of bringing in funding is to develop the Council Tax payments through agreeing to sustainable village estates - with a developer offering to build a cycle track to alleviate traffic congestion.......
 
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Glam

Mad Cat Woman
Particuarly the massive spending on Victoria Park to close down a successful local cafe and bring in a national chain to run it. A few backhanders probably.
Do give over, that cafe was a dump, had been for years. When Keith worked there he bought cut price ice lollies and passed them off as Walls. And don't go telling me owt different, I worked with him of an evening at St.Georges, he openly admitted it. I know he int around now, so you'll just have take my word.
 

Tilly

Well-Known Forumite
As long as you admit you never voted for the Conservatives we may begin a conversation

Otherwise, research, research, research

See you in 6 months
 

Gareth

Well-Known Forumite
Please can you comment or indicate your agreement for the join up of SCC and SBC - to save bringing in charges for rubbish collection.

Just think of the savings - less ineffective work on behalf of the residents of Stafford(shire) in terms of local planning.

May we suggest we save a few pounds by giving p45s to the planning team - and transfer this responsibility to a local primary school. Just think of the improved traffic flows.

There was an independent report while back which recommended that a new shopping centre would not be helpful to the heart of Stafford which now consists of vaping shops and tattoo parlours.

We might save some of our heritage.

Particuarly the massive spending on Victoria Park to close down a successful local cafe and bring in a national chain to run it. A few backhanders probably.

When is the new kebab shop moving into the Stafford Town Hall. Have we been successful with a hapless bid for a new museum when we have historic building left empty.

Then to cap it all - with the council having no Business rates to speak off - let’s agree to any planning request from a developer - might be a few quid in the council tax.

I would not normally comment but they would give a China a run for their money in terms of depletion of the ozone layer - probably Stafford can be seen from space with the amount carbon emissions

Bo******
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
Do you realise that SCC is the COUNTY council responsible for the whole of Staffordshire?
Do you realise that SBC is the BOROUGH council responsible for the borough of Stafford?
The needs of the County are different to the needs of the Borough.
How would you go about getting round the shared services that SBC has with Cannock Chase District Council? Would you integrate CCDC into this SCC/SBC mashup?
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Please can you comment or indicate your agreement for the join up of SCC and SBC - to save bringing in charges for rubbish collection.

Just think of the savings - less ineffective work on behalf of the residents of Stafford(shire) in terms of local planning.

May we suggest we save a few pounds by giving p45s to the planning team - and transfer this responsibility to a local primary school. Just think of the improved traffic flows.

There was an independent report while back which recommended that a new shopping centre would not be helpful to the heart of Stafford which now consists of vaping shops and tattoo parlours.

We might save some of our heritage.

Particuarly the massive spending on Victoria Park to close down a successful local cafe and bring in a national chain to run it. A few backhanders probably.

When is the new kebab shop moving into the Stafford Town Hall. Have we been successful with a hapless bid for a new museum when we have historic building left empty.

Then to cap it all - with the council having no Business rates to speak off - let’s agree to any planning request from a developer - might be a few quid in the council tax.

I would not normally comment but they would give a China a run for their money in terms of depletion of the ozone layer - probably Stafford can be seen from space with the amount carbon emissions
It's really very difficult to know where to start with this post. The temptation is to just dismiss it as utter nonsense and leave it at that because, well life is too short.

However, let's look at it a bit further.

1. Why would merging the two councils stop the charges for brown bins. Can you point to somewhere where someone from SBC or SCC says this?

2. Less ineffective work for residents after a merger. How on earth do you manage to get to that conclusion. Firstly, it's debatable whether, over all, both councils are ineffective, compared to other councils the length and breadth of the country. Second, the bits that are ineffective would not suddenly become effective as a result of a merger, how could they. It'll still be the same people in charge. Let's take Highways. How would a merger of the two councils improve that? Please tell us, I can't wait to here the answer.

3. How will merging the two councils save our heritage? It's already gone and did so in the 70s and 80s. Or will this merger also enable the invention of time travel?

4. To say that the cafe (it wasn't a cafe actually, it was an ice cream shop) was in any way successful, fit for purpose or run in a remotely competent way, is so divorced from what the reality actually was as to be beyond laughable.

5. The 'massive' spending in Victoria Park is in fact very modest. It should result, if done properly, in a substantial improvement for park users without detracting from the character of the park as it was. People moaned about the money spent on the kids play areas in the park but look how successful they turned out to be. A top class amenity for the town.

6. Please tell me where the town hall is as I was not aware we had one in Stafford.

7. Business rates go to central government, not local. How will a merger change that?

8. Comparing Stafford to China is just plain blizzard.

To sum up, there's no shortage of bizarre, utter bollocks been posted on this forum over the years so I congratulate you on making it straight into the top 5.

Now I'd suggest you go for a bracing walk over Cannock Chase and see if a bit of fresh air can't put things into some sort of perspective for you.
 
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Mikinton

Well-Known Forumite
It's really very difficult to know where to start with this post. The temptation is to just dismiss it as utter nonsense and leave it at that because, well life is too short.
.... which is just what I did.

We had this debate back in the mid-1990s. Stoke went unitary and the rest of Staffordshire stayed two-tier.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Response

1) The Council is funded by Council Tax and Business rates it does not go to Central Government.

2) Please read the post properly - a merger would solve the waste of public funding.

3) Shire Hall - Ancient High House Stafford Castle

4) Cafe - it served drinks etc - unless it’s a different one.

5) Repaired Bandstand and a new cafe - yep money well spent

6) Increased pollution from traffic jams on the main routes into Stafford.

Hope the above clarifies the position.
1 Bollocks

2 Utter bollocks

3 Listed. Not in any danger at all.

4 Well woopie doo. It was still 100% crap though. Good riddance.

5. Read through the plans.

6. How would a merger stop that?

Your posts really boil down to some inexplicable anger at the café being closed, unless I'm much mistaken.

Chip on shoulder?
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
Someone is obviously not prepared to own their post...

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