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In the event that comes to pass then I'll happily shove the brown bin up my local councillor's arse as I never use the fecking thing anyway.
All our garden waste is taken to the tip, sorry, recycling centre, by trailer if it can't be composted.
This is what happens when councils have to become self funding. In reality my tax should go down and my council tax should go up...
Tax 'avoidance' has to be paid for somehow.
The only thing this does is result in people dumping their garden waste elsewhere
Source: my parents lived opposite a nature reserve. The lawn mower’s bin simply got tipped over the bank. They didn’t even have a brown bin, just had to pay for large bags to be dropped off and taken away when needed.
When son moved into his new house in Worcester ( who have to pay for gardening waste bins), the neighbour told us he takes his gardening waste to the compost pile in the allotments at the end of their road.
I can see our local woods and allotments being a dumping ground.
We have to leave our bins at the top of a shared driveway with 4 others. Wonder how that's going to work....already have to check my bins before they're emptied, as quite often go to add to them before the refuse lorry arrives and find other people's 'not allowed' stuff ( like car parts) in there.
Not paying for a special garden bin, for it to be nicked like my green one was ( now ended up with a titchy one, so won't be able to smuggle much gardening waste into that...)
So they are going to charge only people with gardens? Or only people that use the service? Or everyone?
Sounds like the admin will cost a chunk of what's made...
Only people that use the service, I should imagine, though what happens to the brown bins of anyone not availing themselves of the service, I've no idea? Does the council take them back in? (I suspect not - I'm still using a small green bin from 15+ years ago).
Anyway, I believe Newcastle-u-l Council charges for collection of green refuse; does anyone here know how their system operates?
Up until I hired a skip for my parents house clearance, and bunged it in there, I still had my old black bin being a nuisance in my back garden from many years ago.
“The blue bag option will give local people more confidence in how materials are collected " ....what a load of B*llocks!
Wondering where I'm going to store this 'blue bag' if that idea comes about? Going to look rather slightly all these blue bags flying around the estates when the wind whips up if left outside!
I don't get the blue bag idea, what happens with the current blue bin and caddy?
I have checked on a few Council websites (where garden waste is charged for) and it seems garden waste can be put in with general waste. Also, according to Newcastle-under-Lyme's Q&As garden waste bins can be shared:
Don't feel so guilty about hiding sons bit of gardening waste in a black bag, and getting rid in his general rubbish bin now
Someone nicked my nice normal sized green (general waste) bin , so won't get much in my tiny replacement
No need to put it in a bag, just put it straight in.
I've been doing a bit more digging into this. In particular, I've been looking at the Environmental Protection Act 1990, the Controlled Waste Regulations 1992 and various associated guidance.
It seems that, whilst there is no legal duty, on Councils, to have a separate collection for garden waste, there is a duty on them to collect general household waste which, by definition, includes garden waste.
So, yes, they can make an additional charge for separate garden waste collections, but not for garden waste that is included with general household waste.
Now some people might suggest that this is a bit of a con and that people are being duped into paying for something that they don't need to; now you might say that, but I couldn't possibly comment.
So if we filter our garden waste into general household waste (black bagged up nach) then they cant complain, interesting...
It all seems a bit of a mess (shock!) - around two thirds of authorities already have some sort of charging arrangements.
However - A spokesman for the Environment Department said: “Free garden waste collections would not only reduce greenhouse gas emissions through less garden waste being sent to landfill, but would also see more waste composted, which is cheaper for local authorities than landfill disposal.
“Subject to consultation, we intend to have free garden waste collections in place from 2023, with councils being funded appropriately to deliver this.”
I think you'll find that our Borough Cuntcillors know far more about things than the Environment Agency.
I wouldn’t worry about that, my bin men repeatedly keep recycling mine, couldn’t be bothered ringing again for a new one, so just using my neighbours he had discarded in his garden.
I think it all depends how environmentally conscious you are, I mean you’re not obliged to recycle at all, you can put whatever you want in your green bin, the main difference is, that gets incinerated or landfilled, whereas if you recycle, by means of separating waste so it can be repurposed, you’re doing your bit.