Co-op cashpoint on Bodmin Avenue

The Police removed it yesterday as a card skimming device was found on it. I had used it early on Sunday night so when i saw the police looking at it yesterday went over to ask them. They advised me to check my bank account as they were unsure how long it had been on. I have checked and not lost any money, and cancelled my card just in case.

I have heard since that someone reported the cashpoint as not working yesterday morning and when the engineer came out he found the device so called the police. The police sat and waited and caught someone removing the device so hopefully no-one lost any money.

A friend of mine says she lost £500 from the co-op cashpoint in Littleworth recently, so i guess i was very lucky!
 

My Name is URL

Well-Known Forumite
Thanks for the heads up...

Simple solution for everyone out there, ALWAYS cover up the key pad when you enter your number.... I usually use my wallet to do this with because I have to get it out anyway to get my card and then put card away again....

Simples
 

db

#chaplife
christ, i use that one quite a bit!

gk141054 said:
Simple solution for everyone out there, ALWAYS cover up the key pad when you enter your number.... I usually use my wallet to do this with because I have to get it out anyway to get my card and then put card away again....
ditto.. although sometimes i'm trying so hard to obscure the keypad i end up getting my PIN wrong lol.. still, if it keeps those savages from getting my digits :grr:
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Co-op computer had a planned outage on Sunday which may be part of the reason some things weren't working. I only ever use the one outside the branch, I 'always' look around it and put the card in whilst obscuring the face of it. I then use an obscuring technique which would make it difficult to be sure which number I have actually pressed - the key movement required is less than a millimeter. And I didn't think I was paranoid.

Did you see the actual device?
 
All i saw was them oohing and ahhing over it! They did say that it was a very good one though.

I never hide my pin so lesson learnt now!
 

wmrcomputers

Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
it's right folks. Practice knowing where the buttons are with your other hand completely covering the view from any angle.

I'm always working hard to protect my £1.30!! lol ;)
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
Having said all this, the Co-op is still the best bank - by far. I deal with a few others for other people and there really is no contest.
 

wmrcomputers

Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
Gramaisc said:
Having said all this, the Co-op is still the best bank - by far. I deal with a few others for other people and there really is no contest.
Ooh good a financial advisor is in the house!
So...... where should I keep my £1.30? I'd like it to grow as much as possible. ;) lol
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
wmrcomputers said:
Gramaisc said:
Having said all this, the Co-op is still the best bank - by far. I deal with a few others for other people and there really is no contest.
Ooh good a financial advisor is in the house!
So...... where should I keep my £1.30? I'd like it to grow as much as possible. ;) lol
Buy £1.30-worth of tomato seeds and seek further advice from tek-monkey.

Invoice to follow.
 

MISS T

Forum user & abuser
Also be aware of p**sed up mates that wait till you've put your PIN in then press 200....a nervous night I spent in The Surgery carrying that wad around, and trying not to spend it.
 

wmrcomputers

Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
MISS T said:
Also be aware of p**sed up mates that wait till you've put your PIN in then press 200....a nervous night I spent in The Surgery carrying that wad around, and trying not to spend it.
been there before! Many years ago and it gave it out (£100 i think) despite not having the funds in my account or an overdraft facility. I got mad so my mates chipped in to give me the £30 (in them days) bank charges, and the bank refunded them anyway as it shouldn't have allowed me to take it out.... so it turned into a free night out after the panic! :)
ONE NIL!!!
 

The Stafford Beast

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Being a paranoid software developer who specialises in information security, my advice is as follows...

If you are going to use a cash machine, before use...

1) Pull on the fascia, card slot and keypad bezels to make sure they aren't loose, or that any strange devices are stuck on (which could be card skimmers and/or cameras).
2) Look into and around the card slot for anything strange.
3) Look up towards the top of the machine (where the light usually is) to see if there are any small windows / holes that a camera could be hidden in. Look how small the cameras on mobile phones are... it doesn't take much to make an unnoticeable recording device.
4) Do the instructions on the screen look familiar? Are there any unusual questions or options?
5) Cover the pad with one hand whilst typing in your PIN number.
6) If you fail to spot any cameras or dodgy blokes hanging around, you can still fool the crooks by lightly touching false numbers in between the real keypresses. This works in two ways: firstly, if any camera is focused on the keypad, it will see you pressing numbers which are not your real PIN. Secondly, crooks can polish the keys before you use the machine so that your greasy fingerprints leave marks on the keys you have pressed, which can clearly be seen when coloured powder is applied. By touching false numbers, they cannot guess your PIN number.
E.g. if your PIN number is '1,2,3,4', you can type in '9, 1, 5, 6, 2, 2, 3, 8, 4' (where the numbers in bold are where you press the key hard enough for it to register the press and the lighter numbers are where you lightly touch the keypad to leave a 'dummy fingerprint'). Remember, the more keys you press, the more you can confuse anybody or camera watching you.

Do not use cash machines unless it is absolutely necessary - get cash from a Post Office or Bank. Only get cashback from a reputable supermarket or shop where you are acquainted with the shopkeeper. Many dodgy petrol station operators are now skimming cards (my Dad recently got his skimmed in one). Do not let your card out of your sight.

BTW, I reckon the Stone Road Co-op cash machine is dodgy. I have seen it tampered with on many occasion. Do not use it! I've also heard that one of the ASDA ones have also been tampered with.
 

wmrcomputers

Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
Really good advice there.

I particularly like the idea of adding un-pressed digits! So simple they should put out a TV advert giving this advice.

Personally I VERY rarely use my card for payments in any shop or petrol station - I'm a cash lover still myself (obviously never carry more than i need to though).

Also probably stating the obvious, but for anyone considering making purchases online, always look for the PADLOCK symbol to show that the webpage is secure (usually in the address bar) or look to see that the website address payment info page starts with https:// and not just http:// before you think of putting ANY information in. Another sound tip is to open a second bank account used SOLELY for internet purchases. keep the account empty and only pay the necessary funds into it for the transaction you need to make.

Sometimes it feels like we're stating things that are common sense - but not necessarily so. The other day a guy off eBay who's purchased from me before said he couldn't find the item on their again. I asked him to Paypal me the funds and next minute I received an email from him with his full credit card details including the last 3 off the back etc. I was gob-smacked that people can be so daft!!!
 

wmrcomputers

Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
If anyone wants his card details, paypal me a fiver to this email address, it's... JUST KIDDING!!
;)
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
There have been occasions in the past where stolen machines have been filled with suspected un-launderable cash from robberies and installed in new shopping centres for the sole purpose of recording the card details. After a while, the 'installation crew' come back and retrieve the machine, saying that it has malfunctioned and then can remove all the data at their leisure. The point is that the machine is not connected to any system and trusts whatever you tell it. It will pay out whatever you ask it for, without it having any effect on your account. If you think you've seen one, then put in a spurious PIN and take the money and run. It happened a few times in the 90s, but seems to have died out recently.
 
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