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Bob

Bob

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I’m still avoiding crowded places to be honest, Tesco are delivering my food and I wore my mask in the petrol station yesterday as did everyone else in there. I think the masks will still be around for a while for every person and organisation with an ounce of respect for anyone else.

We’ve managed to get through this so far without catching it, We’re regularly testing and have been following the rules, my husband and I are double jabbed. I’m desperate for life to get back to normal but I can’t help worrying that too much too soon will produce the opposite of what everyone is trying to achieve.
 
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tek-monkey

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Bob said:
I’m still avoiding crowded places to be honest, Tesco are delivering my food and I wore my mask in the petrol station yesterday as did everyone else in there. I think the masks will still be around for a while for every person and organisation with an ounce of respect for anyone else.

We’ve managed to get through this so far without catching it, We’re regularly testing and have been following the rules, my husband and I are double jabbed. I’m desperate for life to get back to normal but I can’t help worrying that too much too done will produce the opposite of what everyone is trying to achieve.
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The data is showing a very clear pattern, spread is down during lockdowns and much higher when not, and the average age of infections is moving steadily lower in line with the vaccine rollout. It's interesting that the younger lot didn't get it early on though and are only getting hit now, I wonder why they escaped the first wave? Opening up places it's most likely to spread that are frequented by the most infected age groups at a time they have not been offered their second vaccinations feels all kinds of wrong to me.

This heatmap shows the patterns rather well:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/det...#card-cases_by_specimen_date_age_demographics

And for those across the water to the West we have some other data that may be useful:
https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJr...4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9
 
staffordjas

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We booked a table ages ago in our local pub for our anniversary that's coming up , and was allocated our favourite table (away from people passing through) on the booking screen at the time .Not sure we will get that table now and don't fancy being crammed in somewhere ,or on a table with everyone walking past. :hmm:
After calling in on Monday as I walked past to enquire about booking a table for later that evening , and being told that now that things are 'back to normal' you just have to turn up and take a chance on tables being available at the time , not so keen on going now. As the place was already packed, warm and stuffy , with no staff wearing masks, no sanitiser in sight etc, we didn't bother. I felt safer having a couple of cans at home instead that evening.



Saw the Bird in Hand featured on telly the other night , they were saying that despite restrictions being officially lifted that they were still carrying on doing table service and if anyone did want to go to the bar to order that they would be asked to wear a mask. That sort of place looks a lot more appealing to me !


I'm still mask wearing and trying to social distance as much as I can (hard when some insist on reaching across , breathing down your neck at the till etc ) when I do go out food shopping . Carrying my own sanitiser around and sanitising trolleys and baskets if I use them, sanitising my hands millions of times and disinfecting everything when I get back home. Kept us safe so far , and I'm carrying on doing what I have been doing in the hope of avoiding catching covid or any other nasties.
 
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Gramaisc

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staffordjas said:
I'm still mask wearing and trying to social distance as much as I can (hard when some insist on reaching across , breathing down your neck at the till etc ) when I do go out food shopping . Carrying my own sanitiser around and sanitising trolleys and baskets if I use them, sanitising my hands millions of times and disinfecting everything when I get back home. Kept us safe so far , and I'm carrying on doing what I have been doing in the hope of avoiding catching covid or any other nasties.
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The whole thing has really hit colds and flu - it's a long time since I heard anybody sneeze.
 
Z

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Doesn't your immune system get worse- if you don't catch anything for a long time?

Isn't that why people are saying winter could be really bad???

I don't mind catching things if it means it hits me less in the long-run and my immune system gets to build a bit.

It's literally impossible to avoid everything forever, unless you live alone and never leave your house.
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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It will certainly be worse for colds and flu, I'm sure, especially if the current conditions continue, than the last two winters were, where we denied them their main means of transport.

Catching mild stuff and hoping it builds some future immunity is generally fair enough, although it is reasonable to not inflict it upon others - but, it's not always a good idea with stuff that is dangerous, for you or others in the community.

It may be impossible to avoid everything for all time, but there are things worth making some small efforts to avoid or reduce.
 
SketchyMagpie

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There is a somewhat grim irony that, after all the "it's no worse than flu!" nonsense last year, the flu could be a main contributing factor to a terrible winter in terms of infections.

I remember an epidemiologist joking last year that the response anybody who knows their salt has to "covid is only as bad as the flu" should be "oh crap, it's as bad as the flu?!"
 
Gramaisc

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SketchyMagpie said:
There is a somewhat grim irony that, after all the "it's no worse than flu!" nonsense last year, the flu could be a main contributing factor to a terrible winter in terms of infections.

I remember an epidemiologist joking last year that the response anybody who knows their salt has to "covid is only as bad as the flu" should be "oh crap, it's as bad as the flu?!"
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Equally 'ironic' is that that would be taken as a justification for a policy of ignoring Covid.
 
tek-monkey

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SketchyMagpie said:
There is a somewhat grim irony that, after all the "it's no worse than flu!" nonsense last year, the flu could be a main contributing factor to a terrible winter in terms of infections.

I remember an epidemiologist joking last year that the response anybody who knows their salt has to "covid is only as bad as the flu" should be "oh crap, it's as bad as the flu?!"
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Flu is awful, but most people that tell you they had flu just had a cold.
 
Gramaisc

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BobClay

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Interestingly I had a few pints at lunchtime in my local on Monday and all restrictions are as before. Quite a few obvious tourists turned up without masks and were turned away because they couldn't walk to an inside table wearing a mask. You were ok sitting outside as table service was in place.

I sort of jokingly mentioned to the landlady (a real hardcase) why not get in a few boxes of facemasks (would put the cost at about 7p each) and just dish them out for people who want a table inside (probably ordering a meal too, it's a good pub for food) but her reply was: "That would cost me money !!"

Like I said, she is a bit of a hard case, but .... you're pretty safe in the pub, even if it's costing them money. :|
 
staffordjas

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BobClay said:
Interestingly I had a few pints at lunchtime in my local on Monday and all restrictions are as before. Quite a few obvious tourists turned up without masks and were turned away because they couldn't walk to an inside table wearing a mask. You were ok sitting outside as table service was in place.

I sort of jokingly mentioned to the landlady (a real hardcase) why not get in a few boxes of facemasks (would put the cost at about 7p each) and just dish them out for people who want a table inside (probably ordering a meal too, it's a good pub for food) but her reply was: "That would cost me money !!"

Like I said, she is a bit of a hard case, but .... you're pretty safe in the pub, even if it's costing them money. :|
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We had a hardcase tattooed scary bar owner in one of the pubs on holiday.( Hubby got told off for slowing up slightly to glance at the bar pumps as he walked past to check out the real ales as we were being led to our table. :lol:) Got read the covid rules on his blackboard on entry , and despite being pissed off with the rules himself he was sticking rigidly to them. That was one of the pubs I felt safe in.

Another pub , where 2 managers were walking around maskless , supposedly exempt and one had a nasty cough, is closed down completely at the moment since last Friday night. Some staff tested positive and the rest are all in isolation.
 
proactive

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Took a stroll into town to see how things are going at one of Mrs ps shops. The rules in there have not changed since before Freedom Day. So staff take a test every two days and masks only for all who enter. This is clearly stated on the door so there can be no misunderstandings on entry.

So far this has not been an issue however, as I arrived there was a curfuffle on the doorstep. A bloke was trying to gain access without a mask, telling that he knew his rights etc etc.

Now the Mrs' shops are not a 'man thing' so that was strange that he wanted entry anyway. I spoke to him (I had just put a mask on as I approached) and he started having a right go and effing and jeffing at me. Thought, sod this, so I took off my mask and started coughing in his face.

He soon fcuked off.

I quick word with shopkeepers in the vacinity established that this nutter had been going round shops all day trying this stuff on. Someone had got his picture and was going to distribute a poster to all the shops that take part in the town centre security initiative (that's every single shop, restaurant, cafe and pub) starting that he was banned for life and that security would be called if he was spotted.
 
Glam

Glam

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Glam said:
I'm heading back to work on Wednesday after having had 19 lovely long days off work. Just hope my boss insists we keep the masks etc. Haven't had any health problems since we started wearing them, and at times I do seriously hate them. But believe they're necessary.
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Went in for 06.30 this morning, masks are still on the menu, for both staff and visitors. We've had Covid on the ward already, out of 35 staff, 29 got it and of the 14 patients on the ward at the time, 12 had it.
I can see us wearing them till gone Christmas.
 
Thehooperman

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Just had an email for an outdoor Phonics gig in Scarborough next week saying that you need prove either double jabs on your COVID passport, a negative lateral flow test with an email response from NHS or proof of natural immunity by proving positive on a PCR test in the last 180 days.

It goes on to say "Face Masks / Hand Sanitiser

The wearing of Face Masks at the event is NOT mandatory, however customers are mindful to carry out their own risk assessment when considering if they should wear one. For example you may wish to wear a mask when in areas of the show where the crowd is more dense or in queues......"

I shall be wearing my mask up to getting to my seat and then seeing how close the nearest "strangers" are so I'll probably wear a mask throughout which will be a bit strange.
 
Thehooperman

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staffordjas said:
Saw the Bird in Hand featured on telly the other night , they were saying that despite restrictions being officially lifted that they were still carrying on doing table service and if anyone did want to go to the bar to order that they would be asked to wear a mask. That sort of place looks a lot more appealing to me !
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The Bird is still table service and feels reasonably safe with Terry enforcing the mask wearing and table service but there are some people not wearing masks including some exempt staff.

I wouldn't recommend venturing in late on on the busier nights of the week but early/mid week early-ish doors seems to be ok at the moment.
 
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