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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Tilly, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. That-Crazy-Rat-Lady

    That-Crazy-Rat-Lady Well-Known Forumite

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    I agree completely - school just doesn't fit some people, not everyone is academically minded - but it certainly doesn't make them stupid.

    I feel for students who are pushed to take 9 GCSE's despite struggling to read and write, yet they go on to have amazing trades or other life skills.

    My brother in law, for example, thrived at Rodbaston, he is such a kind and caring person with a real knack for working with animals - as a student with dyslexia state schooling really did not suit his needs.

    Saying this - I worry that many employers still require 5 A-C grades at GCSE and qualifications are always asked for on CV's / applications - students who missed out on exams / education due to Covid-19 will always have to work harder to prove themselves and ultimately many will suffer.
     
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    That-Crazy-Rat-Lady Well-Known Forumite

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    p.s Exam results grading will be the next fiasco...
     
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  3. Thehooperman

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    Why not use the pubs as schools and hold additional classes to teach certain regulars what one metre is? :)
     
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  4. Gadget

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    Only 1 of my 4 suits school, she goes to a special school. The school system practically destroyed my eldest's mental health so much so it affected her physical health. She still isn't fully recovered and is now almost 23. I could see it starting to happen with #2 so we declined to send her to High school and pulled the youngest out of primary at the same time. Starting each week day with an hour long battle does no one any good. #2 at just gone 17, is now in her element at Rodbaston she finished this years course top of her year, working with animals is her calling. The youngest is educated fairly unconventionaly but she is learning.
    Tradition says schools are the be all and end all and there is much wailing that primary age kids are ruined if they even miss 2 weeks. When I and I should think most of you were at school we almost all had 2 weeks a year off on holiday and that was normal. It's only recently that society has had a problem with that. Education is important, schools are not the only way to do it though. It's my opinion that some of the modern primary, at least, curriculum is more of an education minister vanity project than actually necessary for kids education. This isn't a knock of teachers btw, I think most teachers are awesome and are doing their best with the ever changing goal posts, policies and constant pressure.
    Schools over pubs but the kids will survive. Maybe we (the gov) should have waited till we'd gotten more of a handle on the virus before starting the free for all and putting us in this situation.
     
  5. Mudgie

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    Not necessarily but spending on education should be scrutinised more as government debt increases
    And everyone's mental wellbeing must be considered, pubmen getting far more satisfaction from going to a proper pub than pupils attending a school..
     
  6. Carole

    Carole Well-Known Forumite

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    Seriously?
    If you are of the honest opinion that someone’s wellbeing and mental health depends on going to the pub then I truly feel sorry for you.
     
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  7. Mudgie

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    Yes, compliance might have been better if we were told to keep 3 feet 3⅓ inches apart.
     
  8. proactive

    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    What planet are you on?

    I've never heard such utter rubbish.
     
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  9. Mudgie

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    And if you honestly don't know what proper pubs offer I feel truly sorry for you.
     
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  10. Carole

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    I do actually, and you’ve picked the wrong person to have a fight with about this.

    My son is a pub landlord, he’s been hit more than most considering that he’s in Leicester.
    He runs a traditional pub where people can go to relax, meet with friends and feel comfortable.

    Going to the pub is fun, enjoyable and is a part of a good life.

    But I reiterate my original comment, if someone relies on the pub for their ONLY source of their mental well-being then they need to re-evaluate their lifestyle.
     
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  11. Glam

    Glam Mad Cat Woman

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    You ain't right.
     
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  12. Carole

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    Husband and I have felt a bit underwhelmed this weekend.

    We’ve obeyed the rules from the beginning, we’ve tried to keep abreast with what we can and can’t do.

    We’ve not seen our son, we’ve not seen family, we’ve not had parties.

    We’ve felt that until a vaccine is found that everyone has a responsibility to themselves, and just as importantly, to other people, to keep safe and nip this thing in the bud.

    There was a sense in the beginning that we were all in it together.

    We’ve now realised that there is a huge number of people that don’t actually care, my own village included.

    It’s now looking likely that my age group might have to go into another lockdown, due to the selfishness of those that couldn’t give a tinkers toss.

    I’m just feeling really annoyed.
     
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  13. Glam

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    @Carole love, I really empathise with you, I've seen the eldest once since lockdown began, haven't clapped eyes on his gf, for one reason or another, she has stayed in their home. hasn't left the house once and I think it's getting/ got to her.
    At work, they've started having relatives back on the ward, mainly due to the patients mental health, (not a ruddy pub in sight either), they can visit for an hour at a time, it's by appointment only and social distancing must be observed at all times. Up to now, everything has gone to plan, no-one appears to have abused it and fingers crossed it will carry on.
    I'm not sure of the words I can use, annoyed, peed off, angry??? Those and more, to think that a child education is being compared to a 'pubman' going to a pub, just so he can have a pint, excuse me, but that just boils my pee. I realise a lot of Forum members like a tipple, or two, maybe three. I'm sure the majority would put the pub aside so the schools can open up again.
     
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    littleme 250,000th poster!

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    I'm feeling a bit optimistic, after reading today that the 50+ might have to self isolate..... Roll on November & my big 50!

    @Carole you are doing the right thing, keep doing it, it's people like you that keep me going, I appreciate it so very much.
     
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    Same here !
    Stuck to the rules , only saw our son after months when we were allowed to in our little bubble. Even now we haven't seen him for weeks since he's been back to work after being furloughed and mixing with lots of people at work. He's being responsible and keeping away from us . He's having a weeks holiday before he comes for hubbys birthday and staying away from people during that time , as he's so worried we will be really ill if we get it.
    Had weekly home deliveries from the local butchers and farm which cost a fortune but we wanted to stay safe.
    Hubbys working from home so we've had to be with each other 24/7 but still didn't go out except for our allowed time exercising. Even then we decided not to go walking as we usually do every evening when he finishes work as there were now too many people walking , jogging and cycling around the estate to do so safely (quite a few seemed not to have heard of social distancing)
    I've been driving for Tesco click & collect 6am slots since being able to get them lately, and only started venturing out for items not available on that to the Co-op these last couple of weeks when we absolutely needed to .

    Went to the local pub these past few days for a meal as it seemed safe-ish as almost deserted inside . ( but worryingly far too many idiots crowding in the outside part the other night though! )

    Been most annoying though that most people around here seem to have carried on a normal as though the lockdown rules didn't and still don't apply to them.

    Just feel like if Boris does say that the over 50's have to shield , and being 64 I'm bound to come into the range even if it's raised to 60+ , and include additional medical conditions which I might possibly then come under, then all that being good has been a waste of time. And going into sheilding/isolating to obey any new rulings is just going to be a complete waste of time ,as unless others start sticking strictly to the rules (which they won't) then feel this thing is going to go on forever. :(
     
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    Carole,
    I was engaging in a discussion not picking a fight.
    I mentioned "pubmen getting satisfaction from going to a proper pub" because everyone's "mental wellbeing must be considered" but I certainly didn't suggest that it's fine if "someone relies on the pub for their ONLY source of their mental well-being".
    I'm sure your son realises more than anyone that going, even maybe just once a week, to "a traditional pub where people can go to relax, meet with friends and feel comfortable" can be just as important as someone going to church, going shopping, going to a football match or going for a walk and I'm pleased that you acknowledge that "going to the pub is fun, enjoyable and is a part of a good life".
     
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    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

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    I love a drink, I have no kids, I'd still open schools before pubs.
     
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    I'd open both with strict "hands face space" measures to keep the Rt rate below one. At present the flare ups have occurred in areas of lower compliance which highlights the importance of community wide compliance with the control measures.
     
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    Ok fair enough, I shouldn't have used the word "fight" when engaging in discussion.
    However you did mention mental well-being and that pubmen get far more satisfaction going to a pub than pupils going to school.

    It’s a bit of a generalisation wouldn’t you say?
    Leaving aside the educational aspect, schoolchildren’s mental health is also being impacted by not going to school and meeting with their peers.
    Some children are actually in danger at home and some children only get fed properly when they are at school.
     
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