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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Tilly, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. Mudgie

    Mudgie Well-Known Forumite

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    Didn't Charles Darwin suggest that "arseholes like this" don't do very well in the process of evolution when he wrote 'On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life'?
     
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    Who are the "Tory publican donors"?
     
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    We might not have been far from martial law with the 1968 plot by Mountbatten and others to depose Harold Wilson.
     
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    Tony Martin for one...
     
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    If you mean Tim Martin of Wetherspoons fame he's been concerned with Brexit rather than party politics.
    And that's if you recognise Wetherspoon venues as pubs.
     
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    But he's also donated to the Tory party. Google is a wonderful invention.
     
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    Is he not a Pubman then?
     
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    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

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    The very definition of a Pubman, I would have thought.
     
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    Along with a number of Russian Oligarchs ..... some of them very pally with the thug in the Kremlin.
     
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  10. Mudgie

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    And acted illegally with not seeking shareholder approval for his political spending.
     
  11. Mudgie

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    'Pubman' in common parlance means a pub user rather than a pub owner but Tim often uses his own 'pubs'.
    A couple of years ago I passed him entering Wolverhampton railway station with him having just checked up on his nearby Moon Under Water. Earlier in the day he had been in his Butlers Bell.
     
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    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

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    What a guy, what a hero. A true Pubman as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    But Will Self doesn't think so highly of Tim Martin.
    This is what he wrote for the New Statesman in 2013 ;

    I’ll tell you what’s wrong with Wetherspoon’s - it’s run by a man named Tim
    Will Self’s “Real Meals” column.

    I once asked Martin Amis how an interview had gone with a particular journalist and he thought for a moment before shrug-sneering, “Well, y’know, he was a Tim.” When I was a kid we used to stop on the school run to pick up the son of the then MP for King’s Lynn, Christopher Brocklebank-Fowler (not so much a wet as utterly saturated, he was the only Tory to defect to the SDP in 1981). Brocklebank-Fowler junior was called Tim, and my sadistic brother and I would tease him: “Timmy-Timmy-Timmy,” while he futilely protested that he was a Timothy.

    It’s my contention that the likes of, say, Tim Henman the tennis player, or Tim Parks the writer, would have had enjoyed a great deal more success if they’d simply changed their names. There’s a prejudice against people called Tim; true, it’s not on a par with racism, sexism or homophobia but there’s little doubt that your life chances will be constrained should your otherwise risk-averse parents have had the temerity to Tim you. All of which is by way of introducing Tim Martin: the 6’6”, mullet-sporting originator of J D Wetherspoon, an invasion-of-thebody- snatchers style pub chain that operates some 833 outlets throughout the British Isles, together with 17 hotels.

    Martin, who retains a 25 per cent share of the publicly listed company, rejoices in the sobriquet “the giant of the British pub industry”. But it doesn’t matter how much wonga the man trousers (pre-tax profits were £66m in the crash year of 2009), he can never escape the fact of his Timness, any more than he can elude its miserable correlate: his pubs are shit, brown dollops of establishments smeared incontinently across our cities. Actually, “shit” is a little strong for Wetherspoon – a bit too gamey; they’re more shit-lite.

    The clever thing is that he doesn’t style most of them “Wetherspoon’s” but retains their original names – the Dog & Duck, the Duke of York, whatever – so that it isn’t until you’ve sidled up to the bar, clocked the plethora of guest beers – Diamond Geezer, Comfortably Numb etc – written up on blackboards in faux chalk-strokes, and registered the corporate vibe that you realise you are in fact in another soulless bloody Wetherspoon’s. As to why Martin should’ve dubbed his pub chain thus, the answer lies in his back story: a troubled youth who was an inmate of no fewer than 11 institutions (a sort of chain education, if you will), Martin did some school-time in New Zealand, where one ineffectual disciplinarian of a teacher was dumb enough to tell the young mulleteer that he would never succeed in business. What was this pitiful pedagogue’s name? Why, Wetherspoon, of course.

    I see a sort of nominative determinism at work here: Tim’s pubs are shit not only because he’s called “Tim” but also because they’re named after an object of resentment. And you know what they say about resentment: it’s like drinking a cup of poison and expecting the other person to die. Sadly, it isn’t Wetherspoon who’s dying (he probably expired years ago) – but us. It doesn’t matter that Martin was quick off the mark when it came to introducing no-smoking areas, nor that he’s been a staunch supporter of micro-breweries, nothing can counteract the excremental quality of these establishments.

    The boy and I checked out the one nearest to us, which happens to be in Victoria Station. It also happens to rejoice in the actual Wetherspoon’s name, but while you might’ve expected it to live up to its flagship status, we found a poky joint crammed with tables. The standard chain-pub-fare was on offer: burgers, sub-curries, toasties, pasta and pies. His bacon cheeseburger wasn’t tasty enough to be horse: the cheese hadn’t even melted and the bacon had been fried rather than grilled, so the whole comestible – when at last it arrived – was both frigid and congealed. My battered cod was at the nadir for this dish: the casing hard, the interior mush. At least it was hot – unlike the chips, which were like cardboard but not as tasty.

    I suppose some might say: well, what do you expect? This is a busy location. To which I would rejoin: I don’t care, there’s a grim cynicism involved in flogging such drek; it demeans the customer and the worker. Looking around me at the other oblong platters on the tables, I saw that many of them had been barely touched. I did eat my food and so left with an unpleasant film inside my mouth. Still, tomorrow morning my palate will be cleansed – but he’ll always be a Tim.
     
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    Have you had your results back yet? Hope you are feeling better
     
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    Hope you ok @Withnail
     
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    Now in self isolation thanks to Spawn3's cold that school gave her last week. Waiting for a home test to arrive after the mini disaster that the test kit the school kindly gave to us. Turns out the codes on it are hinky and can't be recognised by the registration process so we had to apply for another one. So Spawn3 isn't happy as she's not feeling great and has had a nasty test and will have to do it again. Spawn2 isn't happy as she's got to stay off college. I'm not happy as I'm getting it in the neck from everyone and non of this is my fault.
     
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  18. Withnail

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    Yes, disappointingly i'm still alive.

    Whole thing was amazingly 'slick', really - though partly because i fecked up initially.

    So i started out going through the NHS 111 portal, but ended up being advised to go to my GP. I realised that i had taken a wrong turn, tbf one easy to make, and had gone the wrong way - user error, admittedly, but it could have been clearer.

    Then i remembered the pilot scheme that had been posted here some moments ago via the County Council, and tried that avenue.

    https://staffordshire.zipporah.co.uk/TrackAndTrace/

    I was a bit lucky in that my symptoms appeared on Thursday, and the ^above is for 'next day' in Stafford on Friday - pencil that in, if symptoms appear on Tue/Wed, downplay until Thu - and there were lots of slots available.

    Kingston Centre - in @ 09.50, c.15 minute wait, swab in - pretty unpleasant, but not so bad - out the back 20 mins later.

    Told that results would be in 48 - 72 hrs...

    Now i was a very good boy, and so were my cohabitants - all 4 of us did not leave this house, at all, from Friday morning onwards. Sunday 12.00 (p.m.) i received an email that the test was negative.

    There was much rejoicing, and going to the shops.
     
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