Cycle theft

Maryland

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Why should the police staff not be allowed to go in to shops when on a break? Do you feel the same about council workers who shop for food while on their dinner?
You do have a problem, don't you, with distinguishing between people who are actually supporting what you say, and people whom you can attack just because you can find something in what they say on which to pick a fight. Mote: eye. Find somebody else to have a spat with: I'm really not interested.

For what it's worth, and this is the only time I'm going to respond to you, police officers in uniform, shopping in Tesco's, and driving marked police patrol vehicles, do not look to me as though they're 'on a break'. They look to me as though they're using their access to marked police patrol vehicles, and the time for which they're being paid from the public purse to protect 'n survive, or whatever it is they do, to pursue personal interests. And on those occasions when I have access to publicly-funded resources such as vehicles for my own use on my official duties, I damn well have to account for every mile driven being in pursuit of those official duties, and that does not include diversions to go shopping. If a police officer wishes to go shopping, during nominal working hours, while he or she is 'on a break', then a police vehicle should not be used for that purpose. D'you see my point?

And also, since nits are being picked, police officers are not 'police staff'. Were they the latter, they wouldn't stand out in Tesco's like a person in a uniform and a high-vis jacket hung about with the various accoutrements of their on-duty constabulary status. Doubtless, were anyone arsed to do so, and in my experience self-justification is a highly-polished art in some professions, the argument could be advanced that the presence of on-duty uniformed police in a supermarket during a noticeably quiet time of day is, by its extreme visibility, nipping in the bud any potential outbreak of antisocial behaviour in the cheese aisle, and that they're encouraged to do it. Any purchase of doughnuts would arguably, in such circumstances, be incidental to the proper purpose of policing. But I bet the need to go to Tesco's to buy summat, in very nearly 110% of such cases, pops into the head beneath the helmet before the notion of going to Tesco's to promote the rule of law.

I'm proud of the British police as an institution. But I don't like to see anybody, peer of the realm or policeman, taking the piss at public expense. And in my opinion - which could very well be completely wrong, but on available evidence probably isn't - telling a member of the public, who's had a bike nicked, that simply nothing can be done to stop prolific and identified petty criminals from blighting the lives of others is taking the piss. As is going shopping whilst on duty in a police car.
 
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Maryland

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PeterD, goodness has nothing to do with it. Just can't take, er, attempts to pick a fight, not first thing on a Monday morning, even after waking up in the 9th most splendid place to live in the country.

Should have added, for the benefit of Gramaisc, that the Gardai are also a fine body of men and women. And that I have a particular fondness for the Irish military police.
 
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Gramaisc

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Time to dust off that old fancy dress uniform I think... ;)
The one with the hi-vis camouflage?

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I have a particular fondness for the Irish military police.
I can see where you're coming from.....
 

Maryland

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I'm sure they're lovely as well, G, but could I make clear that the fondness results from my experience of their willingness to spend lengthy periods chatting to all and sundry about nothing in particular, thereby gaining more local knowledge and intelligence than a forest of surveillance cameras on sticks.
 

Gramaisc

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I'm sure they're lovely as well, G, but could I make clear that the fondness results from my experience of their willingness to spend lengthy periods chatting to all and sundry about nothing in particular, thereby gaining more local knowledge and intelligence than a forest of surveillance cameras on sticks.
That is the whole point of real policing.

I was once told by a now-retired Garda sergeant "Don't tell him anything you don't want me to know".

..I've often wondered why he said that.......
 

peggy

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Was at halfords today getting a new headlight, got chatting the chap who was fixing it. He told me he was on look out as there was a known bike thief in the store earlier who has recently been released from prison. maybe this is the reason for the increase in bike thefts round the area.
 

shoes

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Funny you mention that, I know one of the employees at halfords quite well and last week they told me someone walked into the store, picked up a bike which was just built for a customer and walked out with it brazen as you like. They got it back, but the cheek of some people.....
 

Rikki

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Someone stole a bike from one of my neighbours sheds yesterday. Unfortunately for them the neighbours are police officers and my cctv recorded them entering the garden. I believe they recognised the perpetrator and he was taken into custody last night.

They were lucky to get away with it for as long as they did as the neighbour in question got back just over a minute after the bike was taken. They actually must have drove past them on the way back.
 

shoes

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Woah steady on there G, that's some actual policing. Over here that'd probably be considered entrapment or something equally ridiculous.
 
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