Football reflects the rest of UK businesses?

John Marwood

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Today Chester football club was wound up

Southend United have but a few weeks before they could be wound up

Cardiff City ( Chairman Ridsdale, remember him? he ran down Leeds Utd ) are a step closer today to being wound up. Deadline for paying tax - 5th May

and

Portsmouth today have sacked 85 staff
 

shoes

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Are less people going to games these days? I know nothing of the sport so I won't pretend I do, but one would imagine a fairly significant amount of revenue comes from fans attending games?

Also are a lot of the UK businesses you speak of offering less sponsorship due to the current economic climate?

85 staff seems a lot though, how many staff does the average club employ?
 

My Name is URL

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John Marwood said:
Today Chester football club was wound up
Thats my team.... long term supporter and ex-season ticket holder... Chester were wound up today because we had been miss-managed by an (alleged) drug dealing thug criminal.

Our own supporters have been boycotting home matches, some (me included) for almost 2 years.... it was the chairman who killed Chester and even the clubs supporters wanted the old club shutting down so we could restart as a phoenix club.

All of the above however should detract from the fact that football has been on a spiral of debts and gross mismanagement for years... CCFC will restart (hopefully) as a fans run club far down the leagues, but it'll happen to a lot more clubs over the coming years....
 

Withnail

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shoes said:
one would imagine a fairly significant amount of revenue comes from fans attending games?
One of the problems in Seria A (Italy) has been borrowing on the back of projected assets from this revenue source going over a decade into the future. I'm not sure whether this is as big a problem in this country, but the bottom line in football today is staffing costs.

The money today comes from all sorts of things, primarily television rights and club merchandise. This, of course, only applies to the big clubs - just as in the broader society, the gap between the rich and poor is vast and growing, hence the life-or-death rhetoric heard at the end of the season.

In Portsmouth's case the outstanding debt was huge and unsustainable, with a sacked manager's contracted severence settlement and amounts owed to the former owner being the proverbial straw. As reported in the current Private Eye;

"Among the outstanding issues from PFC's unsurprising collapse into administration is whether action will be taken to disqualify any of the directors for continuing to trade while insolvent.
With debts of £70m, this must have been the case for weeks if not months, from when they stopped paying PAYE to the taxman."

As has already been said, folding football clubs could become a common occurance. Whether prosecutions of the directors of those clubs will be as common remains to be seen.
 

Tants

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Theres too much money in football when theres not enough money in football.....

Everyone else can see it, why not Fifa or the FA?

I'm not sure of the exact figures but to put into perspective, i reckon 1 week of John Terrys wages would have been enough to pay Chesters bills and keep them in business for much longer!
 

Withnail

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There's the rub. Without grass roots there is nothing. If the roots are strangled, the tippety tops will fall.

These people are earning tens of thousands of pounds a week ( John Terry earns £135,000 per week). Let's get a collective grip.

Up the Borough!
 

riverwayevents

Riverway Events
There's one word that springs to mind with all these clubs from Malcolm Glazer, through Ridsdale through to whoever the fella is at Chester...........the word is STEALING !! Try it anywhere else and in any other walk of life and you go to prison ! Its nothing to do with mis-management....its very good management....if you're the fella walking off with all the brass into the sunset !!!
 

Withnail

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riverwayevents said:
....if you're the fella walking off with all the brass into the sunset !!!
If we assume an average crowd of 500 spectators at a Stafford Rangers, as it appears to have been of late, with everyone paying £12, it would take over half the season (22 and a half games) of gate receipts to pay for a week of John Terry's services.

OMG WTF etc etc...
 

tekkers

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Withnail said:
riverwayevents said:
....if you're the fella walking off with all the brass into the sunset !!!
If we assume an average crowd of 500 spectators at a Stafford Rangers, as it appears to have been of late, with everyone paying £12, it would take over half the season (22 and a half games) of gate receipts to pay for a week of John Terry's services.

OMG WTF etc etc...
Wow!

Up the Borooooooooooooo!
 

John Marwood

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I make that approx. £1 every two seconds he breaths, or more properly a £15.6 million salary + sponsorship deals and a uniform allowance
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
And you wouldn't take a huge pay rise for doing the same thing at a different firm if it was offered to you?
 
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