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BobClay
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This evening my TV screen was assaulted by BJ … (that doesn't stand for Blow Job … although … now I think about it … 
) and Rees-Mogg. (I'll probably have to send the set off to be 'de-slimed.')
Apparently according to the chinless wonder RM you can't use the courts to determine political debate. I'm curious to know how the battle bus was political debate, but there you go, f****** quantum mechanics is easier to work out than political debate.
I can only look around in despair .. but .. and I borrow these words from the lately viewed HBO series 'Chernobyl' because it seems to me it applies, not only to science, but to these charlatans as well. (Yes, I know it was a dramatized version, but it is good.)
"I've already trod on dangerous ground, we're on dangerous ground right now. Because of our secrets and our lies. They are practically what define us. When the truth offends, we lie and lie until we can no longer remember it is even there. But it is still there. Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid. That is how an RBMK reactor core explodes. Lies. "
Valery Legasov. Scientific Chief of the Commission investigating the Chernobyl Disaster. (He committed suicide two years after the event.)
And yes, I think we are all treading lightly on some kind of metaphorical RBMK nuclear reactor. (That hasn't been modified.)
) and Rees-Mogg. (I'll probably have to send the set off to be 'de-slimed.')Apparently according to the chinless wonder RM you can't use the courts to determine political debate. I'm curious to know how the battle bus was political debate, but there you go, f****** quantum mechanics is easier to work out than political debate.
I can only look around in despair .. but .. and I borrow these words from the lately viewed HBO series 'Chernobyl' because it seems to me it applies, not only to science, but to these charlatans as well. (Yes, I know it was a dramatized version, but it is good.)
"I've already trod on dangerous ground, we're on dangerous ground right now. Because of our secrets and our lies. They are practically what define us. When the truth offends, we lie and lie until we can no longer remember it is even there. But it is still there. Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid. That is how an RBMK reactor core explodes. Lies. "
Valery Legasov. Scientific Chief of the Commission investigating the Chernobyl Disaster. (He committed suicide two years after the event.)
And yes, I think we are all treading lightly on some kind of metaphorical RBMK nuclear reactor. (That hasn't been modified.)
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
I've just had a brexiteer tell me it's unfair that we were lied to going into the original EU referendum and that new information should mean we get to change our mind.
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
I doubt it. Many of them are too thick for the penny to drop.
BobClay
Well-Known Forumite
Looking at this Gladiatorial battle for the Tory leadership, I'm reminded of a line from Game of Thrones, (That of late has caused much concern amongst the fans about how it ended.)
It is in regard to Danaerys Targaryen, one of the principle characters of the entire show. The Targaryen name in the show is historically another word for 'madness' but if you're not a fan, I wont produce any spoilers. However, one of her close advisers, starting to wonder exactly how her course line is stretching out into the future, comments:
"When a Targaryen is born, the Gods flip a coin."
Well with this leadership battle starting to look like the senate just before Julius Caesar entered the building, I feel I must paraphrase another famous movie line to describe it:
"We're gonna need a bigger coin."
It is in regard to Danaerys Targaryen, one of the principle characters of the entire show. The Targaryen name in the show is historically another word for 'madness' but if you're not a fan, I wont produce any spoilers. However, one of her close advisers, starting to wonder exactly how her course line is stretching out into the future, comments:
"When a Targaryen is born, the Gods flip a coin."
Well with this leadership battle starting to look like the senate just before Julius Caesar entered the building, I feel I must paraphrase another famous movie line to describe it:
"We're gonna need a bigger coin."
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Looking at this Gladiatorial battle for the Tory leadership, I'm reminded of a line from Game of Thrones, (That of late has caused much concern amongst the fans about how it ended.)
It is in regard to Danaerys Targaryen, one of the principle characters of the entire show. The Targaryen name in the show is hitorically another word for 'madness' but if you're not a fan, I wont produce any spoilers. However, one of her close advisers, starting to wonder exactly how her course line is stretching out into the future, comments:
"When a Targaryen is born, the Gods flip a coin."
Well with this leadership battle is starting to look like the senate just before Julius Caesar entered the building, and I feel I must paraphrase another famous movie line to describe it:
"We're gonna need a bigger coin."
Ah the Ides of March.
Remember it's not just about stabbing people. It's about coming together to stab people as a group.
Gramaisc
Forum O. G.
I'll always remember a line from a Radio 4 phone-in about endowment mortgages - a chap asked if he should make additional payments to his existing plan, as the provider had suggested - one of the panel was circumspect, but said -
"Remember, the people who get you into a mess are rarely the best people to get you out of it".
I don't know a single confirmed leaver who has even expressed slight doubts about the end product, just annoyance at the delays.
It seems to be essentially a belief.
"Remember, the people who get you into a mess are rarely the best people to get you out of it".
I don't know a single confirmed leaver who has even expressed slight doubts about the end product, just annoyance at the delays.
It seems to be essentially a belief.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
Well no facts back it up so....
Withnail
Well-Known Forumite
Check out this shit -
Paid up members of the Conservative Party would see leaving the EU as more important, on aggregate, than being sentient human beings.
It is upon these people that we entrust the choice of our next Prime Minister.
It is our next Prime Minister upon whom we entrust the choices that our Nation faces.
I cannot be alone in being extremely worried about the Democratic deficit in this choice?
WTaF?
Paid up members of the Conservative Party would see leaving the EU as more important, on aggregate, than being sentient human beings.
It is upon these people that we entrust the choice of our next Prime Minister.
It is our next Prime Minister upon whom we entrust the choices that our Nation faces.
I cannot be alone in being extremely worried about the Democratic deficit in this choice?
WTaF?
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
Take are cuntry bak, innit!
Withnail
Well-Known Forumite
Stafford Western Access Route Scheme Update July 2019
Progress so far;
▪ Completing Contract documentation for signing.
▪ The construction works between A34 Foregate Street/Madford Park and Martin Drive at Castlefields are planned to commence on 29th July 2019 with a construction period of approximately 113 weeks.
▪ Undertook Public Information event on 3rd June 2019 together with presentations to key stakeholders including Castletown Residents Association, Madford Retail Park, Sainsburys and Stafford Town Centre Partnership.
▪ Submit for discharge the remaining pre-commence planning conditions.
▪ Completed detailed design work for the provision of a temporary mini-roundabout on Doxey Road that will form an access to the car park at Sainsbury’s. Works are programmed to start on 3rd September 2019.
▪ Completed British Telecom diversion works to Castletown frontage along Doxey Road.
▪ Building Surveys; external and internal, at Castletown, Lidl and Ten Pin due to commence on 8th July 2019.
▪ Commenced trial hole investigation works along Doxey Road.
▪ Commenced the installation of Water Monitoring boreholes on Doxey Road Car Park and at the rear of Ten Pin.
▪ Refurbishment to existing cabling and ducting on Doxey Road Car Park to commence mid July 2019.
▪ Set up of main compound adjacent St. Gobain, off Doxey Road to commence mid July 2019.
▪ Mobilisation of main contract works.
Key milestones include;
*Dates are in accordance with current programme which could be subject to change.
Contract Award 24/04/2019
Commence activities on Site 29/07/2019
Drainage and preparation work between Lidl and Ten Pin
Early August 2019
Temporary access to Doxey Road Car Park (subject to approval)
Early September 2019
Commence Bored Displacement Piling (BDP) Castletown
Late August 2019
Commence Driven Piling at Doxey Road Car Park
Mid September 2019
Commence Bored Displacement Piling (BDP) Ten Pin & Lidl
Mid November 2019
Piling Operations to last approximately 7 months
Roadworks at Doxey Road roundabout
Early September 2019
Roadworks between Doxey Road Bridge and Timberfields
Early December 2019
Demolition at St. Gobain
Mid October 2019
Roadworks at Rose Hill / Martin Drive Roundabout
Late November 2019
Roadworks between Timberfields and Doxey Road roundabout
Early February 2020
Doxey Road Car Park Viaduct Beam Installation
Late February 2020
Roadworks to Madford Retail Park
September 2020
River Sow Bridge Beam Installation
Early September 2020
Activity
Date *
Works at Sainsbury Car Park North (subject to approval with SBC)
Early February 2021
Doxey Road Railway Bridge Closure
Early April 2021
Scheme Complete
September 2021
Landscaping
Late October 2021
Works at Madford Retail Park (subject to approval with Aviva)
Lidl Car Park
Early November 2020
Ten Pin Car Park
Late November 2020
Curry’s/PC World Car Park
Late March 2021
What we are doing next;
▪ Continue with regular 1-2-1 discussions with directly affected frontages.
▪ Consultation for the proposed One Way and No Right Turn Traffic Regulation Orders to Doxey Road Access Road and Castletown frontages.[/QUOTE]
As you can see, everything is easy. Building a road between the A518 and the A34, for example, is as easy as 1,2,3...
Leaving the EU is just as easy, except about 3million times less easy, but just as easy as not being easy at all.
But it's what you knew EXACTLY what you were voting for, wasn't it? So we HAVE to carry on regardless.
Progress so far;
▪ Completing Contract documentation for signing.
▪ The construction works between A34 Foregate Street/Madford Park and Martin Drive at Castlefields are planned to commence on 29th July 2019 with a construction period of approximately 113 weeks.
▪ Undertook Public Information event on 3rd June 2019 together with presentations to key stakeholders including Castletown Residents Association, Madford Retail Park, Sainsburys and Stafford Town Centre Partnership.
▪ Submit for discharge the remaining pre-commence planning conditions.
▪ Completed detailed design work for the provision of a temporary mini-roundabout on Doxey Road that will form an access to the car park at Sainsbury’s. Works are programmed to start on 3rd September 2019.
▪ Completed British Telecom diversion works to Castletown frontage along Doxey Road.
▪ Building Surveys; external and internal, at Castletown, Lidl and Ten Pin due to commence on 8th July 2019.
▪ Commenced trial hole investigation works along Doxey Road.
▪ Commenced the installation of Water Monitoring boreholes on Doxey Road Car Park and at the rear of Ten Pin.
▪ Refurbishment to existing cabling and ducting on Doxey Road Car Park to commence mid July 2019.
▪ Set up of main compound adjacent St. Gobain, off Doxey Road to commence mid July 2019.
▪ Mobilisation of main contract works.
Key milestones include;
*Dates are in accordance with current programme which could be subject to change.
Contract Award 24/04/2019
Commence activities on Site 29/07/2019
Drainage and preparation work between Lidl and Ten Pin
Early August 2019
Temporary access to Doxey Road Car Park (subject to approval)
Early September 2019
Commence Bored Displacement Piling (BDP) Castletown
Late August 2019
Commence Driven Piling at Doxey Road Car Park
Mid September 2019
Commence Bored Displacement Piling (BDP) Ten Pin & Lidl
Mid November 2019
Piling Operations to last approximately 7 months
Roadworks at Doxey Road roundabout
Early September 2019
Roadworks between Doxey Road Bridge and Timberfields
Early December 2019
Demolition at St. Gobain
Mid October 2019
Roadworks at Rose Hill / Martin Drive Roundabout
Late November 2019
Roadworks between Timberfields and Doxey Road roundabout
Early February 2020
Doxey Road Car Park Viaduct Beam Installation
Late February 2020
Roadworks to Madford Retail Park
September 2020
River Sow Bridge Beam Installation
Early September 2020
Activity
Date *
Works at Sainsbury Car Park North (subject to approval with SBC)
Early February 2021
Doxey Road Railway Bridge Closure
Early April 2021
Scheme Complete
September 2021
Landscaping
Late October 2021
Works at Madford Retail Park (subject to approval with Aviva)
Lidl Car Park
Early November 2020
Ten Pin Car Park
Late November 2020
Curry’s/PC World Car Park
Late March 2021
What we are doing next;
▪ Continue with regular 1-2-1 discussions with directly affected frontages.
▪ Consultation for the proposed One Way and No Right Turn Traffic Regulation Orders to Doxey Road Access Road and Castletown frontages.[/QUOTE]
As you can see, everything is easy. Building a road between the A518 and the A34, for example, is as easy as 1,2,3...
Leaving the EU is just as easy, except about 3million times less easy, but just as easy as not being easy at all.
But it's what you knew EXACTLY what you were voting for, wasn't it? So we HAVE to carry on regardless.