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Protest!!!! + spread the word
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John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Yeh right
Tie a child to a railing
Watch it be ignored
Tie an animal to the same
Watch the fuss
Humans
Full ofshit
Tie a child to a railing
Watch it be ignored
Tie an animal to the same
Watch the fuss
Humans
Full ofshit
joshua
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Some are but basil aint
Withnail
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In counterpoint to the possibly unforgivably crass image what one posted ^above - the final line drawn is not one that one would subscribe to for example - may i direct the reader's attention to the rather enjoyable diary of Alexandre Étienne Choron apropos the first line.
The man who cooked a zoo.
The man who cooked a zoo.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
This is what confuses me, the protest signs say battery farm but I thought the UK banned battery cages?
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
So cages are fine, and rabbits under 12 weeks get 0.07m2 of space each?
kyoto49
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I'm disgusted that anyone would think this type of treatment of any animal is correct. to my mind it's abhorrent:
"Farmed rabbits are often housed in buildings containing rows of bare wire cages, which may be arranged in a single row or stacked in two or more tiers.
Growing rabbits
- Eight or more growing rabbits are often kept together in a cage of around 0.56 square metres in floor area. Just over an A4-sized area of floor space for each rabbit in the cage.
- Cages are often only around 45cm in height. "
http://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/farm/rabbits/farming
I keep rabbits as pets, they are intelligent social and highly active so need plenty of space. Keeping them in the way that factory farms do is CRUEL. Rabbits need the company of other rabbits, and space to run and exercise, both vertical and horizontal space. According to the RSPCA the minimum hutch size for one pet rabbit should be 5 foot in length. Why is it different for farmed rabbits? PROFIT and no other reason, and subjecting and animal to deplorable conditions purely for the sake of profit is immoral. That's whats wrong with it
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
I was about to reply with some comment along the lines of we keep chickens in sheds so whats the difference, but actually chickens seem to get a lot more space. Is it because we don't really farm rabbits that our welfare standards for them are rather backwards?
citricsquid
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People who consume or use animal products, whether that's meat or dairy or egg or fur, are complicit in the horrific treatment of animals. People who use animal products don't care about animals, there's extreme cognitive dissonance, at best they pay lip service to animal welfare. Meeting welfare standards doesn't mean that the animals experiences aren't horrific, it's arbitrary, their torture could be worse... but it shouldn't need to exist at all. The fact that it is legal does not make it okay.
Yes, we do still keep chickens in very poor conditions. Although battery farming is no longer legal in England, even "free range" chickens still have poor experiences. The chickens are often kept in huge sheds where they are packed together with little room to move, and because of the economics the chickens aren't cared for -- much easier to leave the chickens that get sick to die rather than check on the welfare of each chicken -- and their outdoor activity (if they're "free range") is often very limited to the point where it's hard to argue that they are free range at all. Broiler chickens are packed tens of thousands together into chicken sheds, often sick, covered in their own fecal matter, bred in ways beneficial to farming but harmful to the chickens wellbeing.
The welfare standards for all livestock in this country, as in every country, are awful. This country is thankfully ahead of some countries like America where gestation crates are legal but there's so much more cruel treatment happening every day in England
Yes, we do still keep chickens in very poor conditions. Although battery farming is no longer legal in England, even "free range" chickens still have poor experiences. The chickens are often kept in huge sheds where they are packed together with little room to move, and because of the economics the chickens aren't cared for -- much easier to leave the chickens that get sick to die rather than check on the welfare of each chicken -- and their outdoor activity (if they're "free range") is often very limited to the point where it's hard to argue that they are free range at all. Broiler chickens are packed tens of thousands together into chicken sheds, often sick, covered in their own fecal matter, bred in ways beneficial to farming but harmful to the chickens wellbeing.
The welfare standards for all livestock in this country, as in every country, are awful. This country is thankfully ahead of some countries like America where gestation crates are legal but there's so much more cruel treatment happening every day in England
I have no problem with rearing rabbits to eat and using the fur for clothing but maybe the welfare guidelines are in need of an update.
Some pet rabbits are kept in very small, dark and dirty hutches, you only have to look at some of the unsuitable hutches sold at places like Pets at Home.
As far as I am aware breeding rabbits for meat is practically non existent in this country due to lack of demand.
We used to breed rabbits for pets and meat but the meat market dried up years ago.
Some pet rabbits are kept in very small, dark and dirty hutches, you only have to look at some of the unsuitable hutches sold at places like Pets at Home.
As far as I am aware breeding rabbits for meat is practically non existent in this country due to lack of demand.
We used to breed rabbits for pets and meat but the meat market dried up years ago.
Amerlan
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I think I read somewhere the people behind this enterprise are Romanian, so possibly the meat is for export.
Gramaisc
Forum O. G.
Can it really be cheaper* for Romanians to farm rabbits for export (to Romania?) here than in Romania?
* or, at least, more prifitable.