Raised crossing in earl street

shoes

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Why can't they drop the curb instead :(

Also, why can't they use the time, skills and materials to raise other parts of the road - for example, where there is a ****ing massive pot hole. Raise the bottom of that pot hole to the normal road level - seems a much better use of resources to me than raising the level of the road above it's normal level.
 

wildwood

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I didn't have to. There were a couple of alternative routes to where I was going - but it was the quickest and easiest in this case :)
 
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monkey bidness

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Come on Staffordians! All the recent whingeing about parking charges ( and spending god knows how much to travel to Walsall (!!!) to avoid them), now an 'Access Crisis' caused by a simple hump in Earls Street ! So a few ludicrously unnecessary stretched limos are inconvenienced. In the grand scheme of thing, I am sure that the vast majority of ordinary motorists, cyclist, and walkers couldn't give a toss. Get a life.
 

henryscat

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Why can't they drop the curb instead :(

Also, why can't they use the time, skills and materials to raise other parts of the road - for example, where there is a ****ing massive pot hole. Raise the bottom of that pot hole to the normal road level - seems a much better use of resources to me than raising the level of the road above it's normal level.

Because it is a kerb....

A raised crossing is more pedestrian friendly and slows cars down. I would bet there are more people that cross Earl Street than
drive along it.
 

proactive

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Come on Staffordians! All the recent whingeing about parking charges ( and spending god knows how much to travel to Walsall (!!!) to avoid them), now an 'Access Crisis' caused by a simple hump in Earls Street ! So a few ludicrously unnecessary stretched limos are inconvenienced. In the grand scheme of thing, I am sure that the vast majority of ordinary motorists, cyclist, and walkers couldn't give a toss. Get a life.
Would you please be kind enough to provide us all with a list of topics that you deem suitable for discussion? That way we will all know what is appropriate or not. Ta :)
 

monkey bidness

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Would you please be kind enough to provide us all with a list of topics that you deem suitable for discussion? That way we will all know what is appropriate or not. Ta :)
Anything but parking and traffic restrictions (so called). Naturally I reserve the right to add to this list as time and inclination allow. Cheers
 

Goldstyle Limousines

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Come on Staffordians! All the recent whingeing about parking charges ( and spending god knows how much to travel to Walsall (!!!) to avoid them), now an 'Access Crisis' caused by a simple hump in Earls Street ! So a few ludicrously unnecessary stretched limos are inconvenienced. In the grand scheme of thing, I am sure that the vast majority of ordinary motorists, cyclist, and walkers couldn't give a toss. Get a life.
Tell that to my brides to be when I tell then I can't take them to st. mary's church but they will have to walk down!
No wonder doing more out of stafford - new registry office no place to park, mojor decrease in jobs there compared to the old reg office because of the parking problem.
 

shoes

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Come on Staffordians! All the recent whingeing about parking charges ( and spending god knows how much to travel to Walsall (!!!) to avoid them), now an 'Access Crisis' caused by a simple hump in Earls Street ! So a few ludicrously unnecessary stretched limos are inconvenienced. In the grand scheme of thing, I am sure that the vast majority of ordinary motorists, cyclist, and walkers couldn't give a toss. Get a life.

Depending on your browser, you'll most likely find a left arrow towards the top left of your screen. Kindly single left click this arrow, and once you are presented with a list of topics, please read them before clicking on them. That way you'll avoid entering any more discussions about roads and the associated issues.

Hell, you could even post a topic of your own? I can't wait to see what rip-roaring white knuckle ride of a thread you are going to conceive in response to this post.

It will be the single most interesting thread of 2012, I'm sure.
 

shoes

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It is quite ridiculous how much consternation a lump of Tarmac generates though...

When a set of springs and dampers costs over £800 for your car and regardless of how slowly you take speed humps it will inflict (albeit minor in an isolated case) damage upon said suspension components and tyres are also over £500 a set you tend to take issue with councils littering the roads with raised humps, usually for no real benefit to anyone (although in this case I can see the benefit to pedestrians) whilst leaving gaping holes in other roads.

Taking the material used for a speed hump and inserting it into a pot hole is, in my opinion, a much better use of resources.
 

Gareth

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While I don't agree with monkey about what we should post some threads I do have to smile and roll my eyes at, I mean brides could be dropped off at Mill Street surely, same walking distance as dropping them off near the Bird in Hand?
The boy racers pelting down Earl Street when not visible if behind a bus in the right hand lane becomes very dangerous for pedestrians, so maybe the hump is a bit high but it has become a requirement down there. Drive slowly enough and damage will not be done to cars, that is the idea of them and the deterrent to kill your speed.

I cannot see how damage can be caused to a car on a speed hump if not speeding, should try some of the square speed humps in Stoke outside some schools. That'll open a few eyes :)
 

Gramaisc

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While I don't agree with monkey about what we should post some threads I do have to smile and roll my eyes at, I mean brides could be dropped off at Mill Street surely, same walking distance as dropping them off near the Bird in Hand?
There is limited vehicular access possible, almost to the church door, maybe the intention is to use that. This is quite possible from Earl Street, but the turn out of Church Lane from Mill Street would be a bit tight.
 

shoes

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I cannot see how damage can be caused to a car on a speed hump if not speeding, should try some of the square speed humps in Stoke outside some schools. That'll open a few eyes :)

Every actuation of a shock absorber causes wear, in normal road use you use around 10-15% of the travel available to the shock absorber. Both the shocks and springs are designed to spend the majority of their working lives in this range.

When you go over a speed hump, even very slowly you utilise a much greater range of travel of the suspension, particularly when you come down back off the hump onto the road. This causes a severely increased damper wear rate. The top mounts are subjected to greater forces about all axis and will wear out at a greater pace than if they were dealing with flat roads alone.

And that's before you even get onto other perishables, such as rubber bushes, or cam-held items such as toe arms, camber arms etc. all holding your car's geometry square and safe. Pillow humps especially like to push the bottom of your wheels wider, albeit very slowly, so you increase your wheel camber, which in turn increases tyre wear on the inside shoulders of the tyres.

Of course potholes have a very similar, and in most cases a more detrimental effect on your car, which is why I advocate using the resources employed to ruin the roads further to repair the roads.
 

Trumpet

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Limos I don't give a stuff about as they are generally of dubious legality.
Tell us more, is there something the limo using public should be aware of?
Are parents putting their children in any kind of danger when they hire these things for prom nights etc?
Wouldn't affect me personally but it would be interesting to know.
 

Gramaisc

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Tell us more, is there something the limo using public should be aware of?
Are parents putting their children in any kind of danger when they hire these things for prom nights etc?
Wouldn't affect me personally but it would be interesting to know.
Some issues are covered here.
 

hop

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I mean brides could be dropped off at Mill Street surely, same walking distance as dropping them off near the Bird in Hand?

I doubt the kind of bride who would hire such a vulgar limo would be able to shift her corpulent arse much further than the sofa, she would find it strenuous just moving her chavvy finger to switch from Jerremy Kyle to Jerry Springer.
 

henryscat

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Tell us more, is there something the limo using public should be aware of?
Are parents putting their children in any kind of danger when they hire these things for prom nights etc?
Wouldn't affect me personally but it would be interesting to know.

If I had kids they would not be going near a limo. There are limo equivalent minibuses which would be a better considered alternative. There are various issues around construction and use on limos imported from the states. Traffic Commissioners dislike them and not without reason.
 

db

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Come on Staffordians! All the recent whingeing about parking charges ( and spending god knows how much to travel to Walsall (!!!) to avoid them), now an 'Access Crisis' caused by a simple hump in Earls Street ! So a few ludicrously unnecessary stretched limos are inconvenienced. In the grand scheme of thing, I am sure that the vast majority of ordinary motorists, cyclist, and walkers couldn't give a toss. Get a life.
yeah! how dare you all use a local discussion forum to discuss local issues! why i oughta :grr:


:teef:
 

Trumpet

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If I had kids they would not be going near a limo. There are limo equivalent minibuses which would be a better considered alternative. There are various issues around construction and use on limos imported from the states. Traffic Commissioners dislike them and not without reason.
What are the issues regarding "dubious legality"? Surely to operate they would have to be legal and if imported presumably would need to have had some form of engineers report for registration/insurance purposes. I ask because some years ago I had a one off special and had to get an engineers report to confirm roadworthiness before I could insure it. At about the same time a friend had converted an estate car into a pick up truck and also had to get an engineers report. No problem with that and would expect even more stringent checks on passenger carrying vehicles.
 
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