Richard III - The King in the Car Park

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Roland

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Did anyone watch the program on Richard III last night?

The look on the woman from The Richard III Society face when they showed her his deformed skeleton was priceless, I thought she was going to burst into tears!

I can't believe the woman who stuck a mattock through the kings skull will ever be employed on a dig again, she should be sent to the tower!

So where should he be buried, I think it should be Westminster Abbey, perhaps it could be our big state occasion tourist attraction for this year (not to forget 'The Baby')!
 
Gramaisc

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Arguments now about who should be burying him, not just the Leicester or York thing that's been going on for a bit, but now there's a dispute about which church it should be, as he was, of course, a Catholic and not C of E...
 
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Gramaisc said:
Arguments now about who should be burying him...
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Have spent a happy hour reading the arguments in this matter - most illuminating.

Of course the Cathedral at Leicester was a Catholic church at the time, so i don't see why there should be any problem with it on that front. For some reason the Cathedral folks appear to be arguing there is not enough space for a tomb of any magnificence. More fool them if you ask me - on the kerching front that is.

Strangely passionate lot, those Catholic wallahs, stands to reason that it should be a Catholic service though don't it?
 
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Withnail said:
Of course the Cathedral at Leicester was a Catholic church at the time, so i don't see why there should be any problem with it on that front. For some reason the Cathedral folks appear to be arguing there is not enough space for a tomb of any magnificence. More fool them if you ask me - on the kerching front that is.

Strangely passionate lot, those Catholic wallahs, stands to reason that it should be a Catholic service though don't it?
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We'll see if it's a Catholic service - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23355604 ..

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..wouldn't he currently be barred from being the monarch due to being Catholic..?
 
Gramaisc

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The University of Leicester.

Unless some guy in a rather far out looking hat rules otherwise.
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Why? Surely the nearest living relative is rather more appropriate - rather than a bunch of students that have stumbled on a corpse.

I understand that he is recorded as having expressed a wish to be buried in York, and, as he was a Roman Catholic, I would assume that St Wilfrid's is the most appropriate place..

You can even see it from the Minster..

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Why? Surely the nearest living relative is rather more appropriate - rather than a bunch of students that have stumbled on a corpse.
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Because the 'bunch of students' obtained a license from the MoJ to (potentially) disinter human remains, the terms of the license stating that they would subsequently be responsible for reinterring them.

For remains over 100 years old there is no obligation to seek the wishes of next of kin - in many ways the entire notion of the 'nearest living relative' of a 500 year-old corpse is quite absurd. As an Englishman with parents of English descent there is an almost 95% statistical certainty that i am a direct descendant of Edward III...

The granting of leave for a judicial review basically rests on the fact that he in the cape like _ batman thinks that the MoJ cocked up in granting the licence in the first place - there should have been provisions in the license to 'consult' on the question of where the remains should be reinterred should they have been found to be those of Dicky 3.

I understand that he is recorded as having expressed a wish to be buried in York...
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Hmm, my understanding is that this is not as clear cut as is being presented by some, though i may be wrong about that.
 
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Hereditary peers tend to have rather more newly dead rels.

Your point is at least partially agreed with by the judge, however, so the absurdists may yet win the day.
 
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Well i've read somewhere that there are an estimated 5 million 'direct' descendants of the fellow, statistically speaking, though rather fewer than that number who can actually prove it.

Quite what insight someone can shed on the 'wishes' of the deceased based on an ancient genetic inheritance i'm not sure i'm the best person to ask. As far as i'm concerned it rather strays into the territory of, say, me demanding he should be buried in Walthamstow because a watery bint lobbed a scimitar at me and told me that's what he would have wanted.

In real terms - ie those that exist in the real world - i say bury the chap in Leicester. Let's face it, they've got feck all else going for them...
 
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