-
Welcome to Stafford Forum. Please or sign-up and start posting!
Riots in Tottenham
- Thread starter United57
- Start date
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Did one of them have a white animal mask on, holding a washing machine with black stuff coming out of the back of it?Trumpet said:
MyCult
SEO to the FACE
UK RIOTS WHEN A MAN COMES AROUND - footage set to Johnny Cash
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
All OK last night then?
MyCult
SEO to the FACE
Someone in London seems to suddenly have 40 brand new iPhones for sale...
http://london.craigslist.co.uk/mob/2536072357.html
"All these iphones are brand new and sealed. They have not been open from box all are on 02 and come with a years warranty. I can sort out a discount if more than 3 are purchased."
http://london.craigslist.co.uk/mob/2536072357.html
"All these iphones are brand new and sealed. They have not been open from box all are on 02 and come with a years warranty. I can sort out a discount if more than 3 are purchased."
shoes
Well-Known Forumite
We have such serious social issues in this country.
Housing estates are the primary source of all of these problems. They are the communities that breed a 'feck the police' mentality. They're the ones you see stream out of their houses whenever police go anywhere near them to make an arrest, in order to give the police a hard time and push them out, like they're an enemy. They're the ones that have disrespectful children who are out at all hours of the day with very little parental discipline.
No legitimate, sensible, caring and morally assured parents would let their kids roam the streets knowing what is going on around the country. Those that are allowing it either have absolutely no control over their kids at all or they know and don't care, they may even want them to bring home loot.
No respectable parent is going to let their child bring home hundreds or even thousands of pounds worth of items into their home without at least questioning it.
This is a major aspect of events that hasn't really been focused on enough.
The only end I can see to this is when the unscrupulous scum that are participating in all of this finally decide they're happy with their hauls of loot and no longer want to risk being prosecuted to get more. The police and government will step things up if it continues and the odds of being caught will rise, particularly as many have already given up and are probably feeling delighted with their ill gotten gains (and gains they are, hundreds of pounds worth at least for most people involved).
It can easily flare up in the future too.
They're digging themselves a hole. They're reducing the chances of jobs in their areas, reducing the chances of themselves getting on the right track of employment by the criminal records many of them will get and they're increasing the burden on the public purse which will further boost the very things they may partially be unsettled about (inflation, taxes, cuts).
I still personally hate to see people act like the cuts are the problem. It amazes me how uneducated and short sighted the population can be over such a thing as cuts. What do they expect the government to do after 13 years of completely irresponsible over spending? You can only do it for so long until you have to put a stop to it or the country will go bankrupt. I can't believe some kids (and their parents) think it's alright to do these things because they lost their EMA, or because the police stop and search them sometimes, it's ridiculous. The left should take some serious responsibility for festering such an attitude of entitlement in this country for so long.
That shopkeeper who was just on Sky News was so completely and utterly right.
They do have a future if they are willing to work, to try and to make the best of their lives. They choose to be scum, they choose to continue their horrible attitudes and lack of respect. They are choosing to loot and make short term gains at the expense of long term poverty, economic decline and a breakdown of their local communities. It's just that they do not care at all, they'll get their few thousand pounds (or more) from their loot, they'll enjoy their trendy new electricals and clothes, but they still wont have jobs or a real future. What happens later? More crime? A life on benefits? The cycle will continue.
Estates, benefits, political correctness, irresponsible breeding and poor education have created this giant social underclass which has encapsulated half of an entire generation of people in this country. We're in serious trouble over this and I honestly cannot see any group of politicians from any party ever having the support or bravery to come out and take decisive and desperately needed action to combat this mass social decline.
Very ashamed and unhappy with all of these looters, their parents, family members who don't report it. We used to be such a great country, the decline is clear for all to see.
Housing estates are the primary source of all of these problems. They are the communities that breed a 'feck the police' mentality. They're the ones you see stream out of their houses whenever police go anywhere near them to make an arrest, in order to give the police a hard time and push them out, like they're an enemy. They're the ones that have disrespectful children who are out at all hours of the day with very little parental discipline.
No legitimate, sensible, caring and morally assured parents would let their kids roam the streets knowing what is going on around the country. Those that are allowing it either have absolutely no control over their kids at all or they know and don't care, they may even want them to bring home loot.
No respectable parent is going to let their child bring home hundreds or even thousands of pounds worth of items into their home without at least questioning it.
This is a major aspect of events that hasn't really been focused on enough.
The only end I can see to this is when the unscrupulous scum that are participating in all of this finally decide they're happy with their hauls of loot and no longer want to risk being prosecuted to get more. The police and government will step things up if it continues and the odds of being caught will rise, particularly as many have already given up and are probably feeling delighted with their ill gotten gains (and gains they are, hundreds of pounds worth at least for most people involved).
It can easily flare up in the future too.
They're digging themselves a hole. They're reducing the chances of jobs in their areas, reducing the chances of themselves getting on the right track of employment by the criminal records many of them will get and they're increasing the burden on the public purse which will further boost the very things they may partially be unsettled about (inflation, taxes, cuts).
I still personally hate to see people act like the cuts are the problem. It amazes me how uneducated and short sighted the population can be over such a thing as cuts. What do they expect the government to do after 13 years of completely irresponsible over spending? You can only do it for so long until you have to put a stop to it or the country will go bankrupt. I can't believe some kids (and their parents) think it's alright to do these things because they lost their EMA, or because the police stop and search them sometimes, it's ridiculous. The left should take some serious responsibility for festering such an attitude of entitlement in this country for so long.
That shopkeeper who was just on Sky News was so completely and utterly right.
They do have a future if they are willing to work, to try and to make the best of their lives. They choose to be scum, they choose to continue their horrible attitudes and lack of respect. They are choosing to loot and make short term gains at the expense of long term poverty, economic decline and a breakdown of their local communities. It's just that they do not care at all, they'll get their few thousand pounds (or more) from their loot, they'll enjoy their trendy new electricals and clothes, but they still wont have jobs or a real future. What happens later? More crime? A life on benefits? The cycle will continue.
Estates, benefits, political correctness, irresponsible breeding and poor education have created this giant social underclass which has encapsulated half of an entire generation of people in this country. We're in serious trouble over this and I honestly cannot see any group of politicians from any party ever having the support or bravery to come out and take decisive and desperately needed action to combat this mass social decline.
Very ashamed and unhappy with all of these looters, their parents, family members who don't report it. We used to be such a great country, the decline is clear for all to see.
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
He's 'away'
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
...Apparently a local photographer is in hospital having a plate inserted into his jaw after being attacked whilst working in Wolverhampton last nightJohn Marwood said:
Expect an ebay listing for some expensive Nikons anytime soon
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
henryscat
Well-Known Forumite
I think you've spectacularly missed the bigger picture.shoes said:
How about looking at the role of the capitalist "sod everyone else so longs I'm OK" system that you're such a fervant supporter of? The gap between the rich and poor gets ever wider. Britain is getting richer and yet more of the population are becoming marginalised.
The "social decline" as you put it is only going to get worse as the effects of spending cuts begin to manifest themselves. You predictably drone on about benefits - remember that benefit fraud pales into insignificance compared to tax evasion and avoidance. But that's OK because the tax avoiders wear suits, and can afford tactical donations to political parties to make sure they continue to get away with it. As a consequence we can't afford to maintain public spending on things that would help the country out of some of the mess its in.
Interesting article at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/08/context-london-riots
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
If they had a job I suppose at least it frees it up for a decent person to take, but I doubt that many rioters had jobs. It costs more to keep them in prison than on benefits, and we still have to clean up their mess, so society loses. Maybe all rioters should get a mandatory 1000 hours community service on top of their prison time?
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
One arrest today of ex now news editor
The rain hath dampened the chav spree
All hail the hail
The rain hath dampened the chav spree
All hail the hail