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rugby clubs plans go to judicial review

Discussion in 'Stafford Chat' started by Gareth, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    It had occurred to me that not everyone will have visited Doxey Marshes and may not know the best routes to see them

    Apart from entering along the old railway line on Doxey Road you can also gain access by way of Warren's Lane which is opposite Tillington Hall Hotel, a track that runs alongside a Dental Practice

    There is also a car park off Wootton Drive off the Eccleshall Road.
    Wellies are a good idea in Winter but walking boots may suffice if there has not been too much rain
    There are 2 hides from which to view from and if dry you can walk from the motorway all the way along the Marshes to The Railway Inn for a reward
     
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    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    If tired, you may be able to sit on benches that I put in at the end of the last century - if they're still there....
     
  3. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    Does that qualify you for Freeman of the Borough?

    And where will you keep your sheep?
     
  4. Sir BoD

    Sir BoD Well-Known Forumite

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    Whilst I understand the sensitivity of the area to wildlife, I'm wondering whether Mr Drone man would be able to get some aerial footage of the area - Just so our children's grandchildren can see how lovely it was before their lovely Marshview Housing Estate was built (on stilts) - complete with a complimentary 4sq ft of grassland for the public and wildlife to enjoy.
     
  5. Gramaisc

    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    Yes, though I have prior qualifications for that.

    In their own boudoir.
     
  6. proactive

    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    Now you're just being silly!

    Not all of the 4sq ft will be designated for wildlife. Some of it is grassland that just happens to border the designated area. The wildlife know that and, because they are sensible, know to avoid it. Therefore any reasonable right-minded person knows that only really 1sq ft is designated for protection, leaving the other 3sq ft for something really important, like perhaps an extra toilet for the good Lord Stafford to shit in.
     
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  7. John Marwood

    John Marwood I ♥ cryptic crosswords

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    Bob Dylan?
     
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    It really cheers me up to hear that not all of them are on the take, Gareth. What percentage of corruption do you consider acceptable in local government? As it happens, I'm from a rugby-mad family who would have been thrilled to see Stafford's facilities improved, but not if it involved dodgy planners, other vested interests and the loss of something that's far more important to everyone else, now and in the future.
     
  9. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

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    Now on a PC, much easier to quote, so I'll address a few earlier points again.

    What about beaconside? That is already sports pitches, the disruption to change it to sports pitches would be minimal.

    But less new land is used, thats the key point. The children hit by cars feels like clutching at straws TBH, kids have been run over on car parks and driveways too. Still, could build a foot bridge if too concerned?

    As stated earlier, only for those south of the town centre. Beaconside just got a cycle bridge almost right to it meaning anyone East of the town centre is very well catered for. Buses already run to the hospital, its not much further. They also already have parking for those unable to cope otherwise.

    If national planning does not allow a reduction in playing fields can we not keep beaconside? Or is losing that being balanced by the 7 pitches the rugby club are building and the beaconside facilities will end up as housing? Not seen the in town bit mentioned and no idea where they mean TBH, there is some ideal land in a field at the cricket club but you aren't allowed new pitches on there because it will make the area look bad.

    Have I mentioned Beaconside? Currently quite happily used by loads of people and about to be scrapped, a loss to the whole town. What if there was some way we could have not just rugby pitches but a large multi discipline sports facility for the entire town to use, including the youngsters? The site seems relatively safe and certainly more accessible than the marshes. which will require everyone to enter via doxey road which is about to get much busier with the Western Bypass from Lidl and joining up to Castlefields further up.

    I know you say this isn't a one dimensional issue but until I hear a better reason than boosting Lord Staffords profits Beaconside will remain the obvious choice to me. What is really galling is it used to belong to us, the tax payers. How the Uni was allowed to sell it in the first place is beyond me! Although it doesn't surprise me.
     
  10. The truth the whole truth

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    It pleasures us that Stafford forumites are not falling from the chairman from SRFU supportive comments ,
     
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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    I generally only fall from things after I've been to the Floodgate or The Swan.
     
  12. John Marwood

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    I deliberately avoided mentioning Littleme's secret entrance to the Marshes via Stafford Common

    Because it's a secret
     
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    Shhhhhh, don't tell em all my secrets!

    You can park on the old Homebase (Dunelm, Dreams, Farmfoods) car park & cut through down the side of the Health Centre/cemetery if you need to drive to get there....

    Conveniently* there are toilets situated in both Homebase & Dunelm if you have little ones that may need to 'go' before a walk.

    *Did you see what I did there...
     
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    Shiny things?
     
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    Covering all needs.
     
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    With all due respect to the anonymity thread, i think it is quite obvious where M(a)L is coming from - Imagine the M is a J - i don't think he speaks for the Council.

    I'm going to say some other things but i currently need both a wee and a cigarette.
     
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    Be careful where you apply the match.
     
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    Being a responsible type of fellow, i pee indoors and smoke out.

    The twain do not meet.
     
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    I refer the right honourable Member to the first rebuttal here, but seeing as we are a few pages along from that i would like to present mine...
    Now for starters, stating that there are preexisting 'pressures' is not a great argument for adding to them - you might as well say that, seeing that you have already stolen one of my biscuits, it hardly matters if you steal a second. TBF i ought to keep my powder dry, but seeing as you brought this up first, and it is the most ridiculous of your arguments, it must be dealt with first.

    At this point i shall give the floor to Mr. tek-monkey -
    Does it still seem reasonable to you?

    Flippancy in the face of determined and knowledgeable opposition would be acceptable if it was backed by the same, or indeed greater, knowledge base. In this case it is not. I fear you must accept that you are out of your element.

    I trust that what we can all accept is this -
    - we wish you no ill, we just don't want you to maul our marsh.

    Have a look through this thread if you genuinely give...

    We all know who the villain of the piece is.
     
  20. The truth the whole truth

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    Seems to me planners don't see the obvious , very blinkered or even knobbled to see it .
     

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