Stafford Area: Save Your Energy

Doctor

Well-Known Forumite
A new project has been set up to help all us Staffordians :stafford: save our energy, called Stafford Area: Save Your Energy. The idea is to bring together info on what practical things we can do to save energy, real life examples from people that have done things and links to local companies that offer energy saving stuff and services. That will all be going on a website but then there will be local volunteers going round to spread the message and there will also be a light bulb library to let people try out energy saving bulbs and get the right bulb for the job.

Anyway, the Stafford Area: Save Your Energy website will be launched on Wednesday 28 May and there are still a few places left. Penney Poyzer (from TV's 'No Waste Like Home') will be there and there is more info here - http://www.staffordarea.saveyourenergy.org.uk/.

So if you are interested in doing an energy saving project at home or you are one of the many local companies offering energy saving goods or services and want to find out more then get in contact with Alison Crane via the website.

The project is also looking for contributors to the website:
Should your company be listed? If your selling goods or services connected to energy saving then they should!

If you have done something to save energy in your house - installed solar panels or a ground source heat pump or used sheep’s wool to make a big woolly jumper for it - could you be a case study to show others how easy it is (or where the pitfalls are!)?

We are racing headlong toward the precipice of calamitous climate change. If we all do the right things now we might stop just short, like the Road Runner screeching to a halt at the very edge of the cliff. More likely, though, we’re Wylie Coyote!

I you want to save our world go “Neep, Neep†now!

Anyone interested in local green issues should also join Stafford Green Link Yahoo group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/staffordgreenlinks/
 

RoadRunner

Active Member
Doctor said:
We are racing headlong toward the precipice of calamitous climate change. If we all do the right things now we might stop just short, like the Road Runner screeching to a halt at the very edge of the cliff. More likely, though, we’re Wylie Coyote!

I you want to save our world go “Neep, Neep†now!

Anyone interested in local green issues should also join Stafford Green Link Yahoo group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/staffordgreenlinks/
Hi Doctor,

We are indeed headed for a cliff, perhaps we are enjoying our last Coyote moment?

From The Transition Handbook by Rob Hopkins:
"While peak oil and climate change are undeniably profoundly challenging, also inherent within them is the potential for an economic, cultural and social renaissance the likes of which we have never seen. We will see a flourishing of local businesses, local skills and solutions, and a flowering of ingenuity and creativity. It is a Transition in which we will inevitably grow, and in which our evolution is a precondition for progress. Emerging at the other end, we will not be the same as we were; we will have become more humble, more connected to the natural world, fitter, leaner, more skilled, and ultimately wiser."
How about Transition Town Stafford? (27th May)

Neep Neep!
 

Paul

A few posts under my belt
I would be more thrilled if people like Dan Quale was not the director of company making energy saving light bulbs,also if the Bush family were not the directors /owners of Enron oil and responsible for shelving new energy devices that would have saved using oil many many years ago ,they the oil companys have bought up all these devices SHELL/ BP ,killing for them if people did not sell them so they counld be shelved , the inventors were found dead (see a list of dead scientist who did not agree with government here or in the USA ),I would also be impressed if they were not trying to rip us all off in government by saying you can drive your gas guzzler but we will have to rip you off while doing it the pollution remains .I refare to new tax bands ,its ok to pollute if you can afford to do it .I would make all public transport free- good clean none profit making public tranport put all road traffic (most of them go out full come back empty )on the sea we are suround by water, use rail more stop the subsidising from tax payer to the rail companys it works out in billions to private companys who have share holders ,worked out with the rail companys by the conservitives at that time who also sit on their boards of directors ,this is the way forward, free public transport and people power to get to grip with corrupt government .But yes we have to do something, I do many things I always have ,I also think Stafford council are doing to little to late and the bin collecting is in chaos ,did you also know they ship our waste out to third world countries in containers to be disposed of ,out of sight out of mind ,so do not let them hood wink us all .
Politician's have been know to lie, their names comes to mind but we remember WMD/ Dr Kelly /15 mins to an all out strike (from people we were selling weapons to saddam OUR GOVERNMENT who also sell nuclear parts to Iran NOW while condeming them in public )from weapons to SADDAM another big lie .Anyway their is no global warming, it is planetary change going into an ice age their is plenty of ethicle evidence from scientists who try to tell the truth and don't get air time or news print time to tell the truth, every planet in the solar system is changing they lie to us all about all this ,things are changing in the creation .They kill pollute the land air and sea (Dumping at sea /deforrestation for profit ,woman have mucury in their breast milk through dumping at sea because they eat healthy diets FISH , then they blame us the motorist/our homes ,when they allow crap building of homes in the UK, when its the company's who make things ,if they did not make it all we would not buy it ,wrappings /plastic bags, who makes them ,do YOU , so do not let government blame us, its the big company's/ manufacturing/gaz guzzlers ,packaging ,profit and loss is their game we are just scape goats that will pick up the tab whe we buy things you cannot get them repaired we have to dump them its all profit and loss and VAT tax revenue in rip off Britain 800 stealth tax from New Labour in 10 years ).They are creating poison in government laboritories ricine antharx bird flu (YES THEY DO) all these scares have been government grade viuses and would you believe they even created AIDS and HIV in the USA tried it out in Africa ,yes their is evidence for all this .Do all notice we had mad cow now their is a shortage of food so they say, their is no shortage but they will create one for profit ,like oil shortage =high price but they still have oil 40 years on they create it all to fleece us all out of our money ,we had oil shortage 40 years ago yes we still have it now their is about 300 years supply and car do not pollute we do dirty the air we breath but the planet runs that way if a cow farts its methane if a log rots what does it produce basic science is needed here start to think they lie to us .But lets keep on doing what we do despite them to make the world a better place .Take care all will they let this through hope so its true do your own search and find out .
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Paul said:
....would you believe they even created AIDS and HIV in the USA tried it out in Africa ,yes their is evidence for all this .
WTF? Why kill us all, how can they rip us off afterwards?

Paul said:
we had oil shortage 40 years ago yes we still have it now their is about 300 years supply
Where? Last time I checked proven reserves were crap. The US had about 10 years worth if left to only consume their own, rather than importing the majority of it.

Paul said:
Other words
Put your foil hat back on, it'll make you feel better

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Paul

A few posts under my belt
Foil will not replace anything you have to offer in the real world , all we need to do is open the eyes and the brain cells if we have have any and look, if your alive you see it ,closed minds ,closed eyes only serves to be a slave tax fodder or cannon fodder or did I hear they want to teach children weapon trianing and army skills in schools or did I dream that one , did we go to war with LIES,NO I dreamed that one also , did we kill 2.4 million people People in Iraq ,did we find WMD ,who did kill Dr kelly found without blood in his body no blood at the place he was found ,we all dreamed that one two ,Sadam only killed 100,000 or was I asleep through all this,so who's wearing the tin foil you or me wait now shoot to kill by the good old british bobby , if you do not see sleep on sweet prince good luck all those who say this silly word conspiracy do not have a clue outside beer and pricked onions and only serve the people who invented conspiracy to deflect from the truth ,are we on the same planet ,are SAS soldier in jail ,are civil servent in jail ,are their aircarft crew in jail /pilots for not going to this evil war having been as saw this evil at work and now serve their time in jail ,when Blair lied to this country ,what happened when they foung SAS in arab dress with explosive and bomb making kit in Iraq,the army had to go in and brake them free .All the best my freind some people do wake to truth but only when their children die in evil wars ,thats the conspiracy .I speak from personal knowledge of 28 year in the military where does your experience lie .We better both agree to differ or the place becomes a battle ground ,if you keep your opinions to your self so will I ,Just do not answer the post if you do not understand them .Take care i always try to remain friends with people and I understand we all do not see all or even believe all we see .
Let me pose a question Did You know we have had 22000 war in 5,000 years, is that normal ,who gains and why ,all is not what it seems in this world of ours but to say conspiracy is nieve at least when you see what we have done, with the help of the invaders ,our government and arms dealers .You have never been in a war am I right .if you or your children or your father brother die in a war would you have the same attitude .Now floride if you wish to consume it, thats ok but all are not like you and see not conspiracy but control and lack of choice by some idiots who think they can control us all .Sleep on sweet prince its safer .Take care
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Proof? Of anything? Cos I heard the Clangers were behind it all, they were masterminding the lot form their secret moon base, so the Soup Dragon could sneak in while we were unprepared and steal our cheese.

Paul said:
Let me pose a question Did You know we have had 22000 war in 5,000 years, is that normal ,who gains and why
Really? Can you list them? Show me somewhere that does? When you say we, I guess you mean humanity? You do realise we were at war with ourselves then? Why? Cos the beard in the sky told us to (plus they were a funny colour). Sod the government, its religeon you want to watch out for.

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Paul

A few posts under my belt
Have not got the time to list them get a history book,I am busy taking part in life watch who won the war ,because the history will be tainted ,here is one for you maybe all your history being taught in schools /university was/is written for you ,we all just believe what we are told ,we think they will tell us the truth now we all know this is not true even if we open one brain cell ,they let truth out a little at a time holding us back as a human family(some are chimps sorry),its like free energy its been out their for a long time but those who own the oil will not make any cash so they will not give us/them free energy ,lets make them work harder longer for less until your seventy now, remember when someone said (are you old enough) computers will allow people more time to live life taking jobs that humans do, to be done by machine ???everyone believed it ,they said the same about the industrial revelution ,we were slaves then we are slaves now and until guys/gals? like you wake up you me your children will stay that way ,wonder what your attitude will be when you wake up, if you ever do ,maybe you never will ,to reality i mean ,we go back in time with the idiots in New labour or any dim politician who likes our money because they spend it on their families and themselves and a very large war chest and of course the good old royals bet your a royalist ,they live high on the hog on (we just happen to be the hog) a civil list, free at the point of life, do you think the Uk in a FREE democracy should allow some people to live off our charity without any form of employment ,.Take education ,they just get your children ready for being a tax slave or cannon fodder under their control ,tell me whats changed in 2000 years ,you still pay tribute to a monarch ,you still fight their wars and if you do not you go to jail we/you are still a slave, you cannot live nor can any of us live outside their controls,try it but your family and children will have all this unless people get serious about who does what to us ,in our name and for our good ?or what they can steal from us in VAT ,TAX ,Stealth TAX ,council tax its all a scam ,slaves we are slaves we remain ,the only one who are to some degree free are the one's in jail ,at least they buck the system (not the violent ones ) and know their alive, you may go from birth to death not knowing who you are ,why you are here, is it just to live breath and bonk and be a slave, hearing only what they tell you (education) I mean Darwin was wrong, so was Albert ,,E=MC2 even now the vatican (and all the sheep ) now believe their could be extra terrestrial life out their ha ah ah aha . Life is a con kid not for the faint hearted ,some bimble their way through some do a good job and wake us up ,others control us knowing we are all sheep (or some of us are)to be led, brainwshing by and through media TV film flash messaging within some media messaging (you think not) ,you should slow some walt disney films down frame by frame see what they show our chilkdren ,the lion the king and the wardrobe i think it is ,blow the front cover up and do a simple check of what is on it ,i will not tell you ,do it for your self ,Here is one for you who discovered America the china and I think the norse people were their before that and black african were their before the american indians proved but not main stream because it does not suit them ,archeology now here is one for you ,we are not coming from cave man to high interlectual human we have been very highly educated interlectual human we are becomeing more primative going back in time ,we have been their blew it and on our way down struggling to keep a liitle of what we think is technology, its not, we only think it is ,the stuff we had in the past (hidden knowledge ) was space flight ,communication to every country on the planet ,monorail travel ,food enough for all ,peace and love was abundant ,now we are held back by war, their were nuclear wars in india about 10,000 years ago some parts are not habitable today ,africa is the richest nation on the planet why do they war and starve because some people ?? want their wealth ,so we keep them at war fighting each other ,so BP company's and the bloodline families who do run our planet who still run our planet NOW for gold/dimaonds and mineral wealth greed power goes in their pockets and not in the african pockets ,so we keep them starving and at war ,the next time you see brown any politician ,who say we will wipe their dept out, see his body languge, they do not mean it, they want us to dip our hand in our pocket so they do not have to .Take the tsnarmi the money collected it still in some european bank, take cancer they have had a cure for hundreds of years ,we keep giving to that charity and a cure will never be allowed out, why because you never make money from well people, they (drug companys ) want you sick and working harder longer for less because you to them are a unit of energy a battery to be born school you, to work work you, to the death or make you fight in a war thats not winable, wars one come then goes another takes its place what happend to the cold war ,what happend to Northern Ireland (I was their most of my life as a young adult ) what happend to vietnam /korea what did we achieve in the two so called world wars ,created by them for us to cull each other , to managable numbers as they do now with war illness cancer and other stuff all because they create it all, why (maybe you know ) bird flu anthrax aids eboli ricen all out of a US or UK lab as was mad cow, swine fevour,waking up is hard to do and people will not until it effects their son daughter and its in their back yard, we see it all the time little jonny goes to war comes back a hero /little jonny goes to war comes back dead ,mum and dad say we should not be their why are we fighting this war ,we will be fighting a war and war on terror until we stop invading other lands ,saying we are going to save life only to take twice as much life 2.4 million is Blairs count saddam only killed 100,000 ,we got a bit of oil but it was to build bases, Bush builds bases ,he is staying their for ever, a foot hold to help the jews take the holy land (you think not )they through blood lines wrote the bible and now live it out and we think any and all religions are ok (not so) brainwashing people into slavery bowing to some god who happened to be bloodline who came from the stares (we were primative then were we not) and we thought they were gods, they re-wrote the bible, now we relive it and many bow and scrape in vatican square 6 billion more in other faiths ,bowing to gods who were made up for the human mind to follow and we see all these inteligent people bible bashing brainwashed followers, blind leading the blind ,its the same when we allow politician's to make us think we serve them ,we do not, they serve us .So do the royals ,who thinks she can give out honours and she as the divine right to rule over you and I ,have you woke up yet ,You are a slave try and live out side the frame they put in place, for food, water, education, their education, jobs, hospitals, local government ,who control your every breathing moment ,any way said enough ,if anyone gets cance do not rely on the NHS or the government or doctors ,they serve the machine, they, doctors police politician's army lawyers all sware an oath to HRH, ever wondered why ,if they swear an oath to her, they cannot represent you and I in anything .Some MPs said when swaring this oarth UNDER PROTEST but they do not get paid if they do not ,same with gerry adams martin macguiness ,they now all go to lunch with Ian paisley and love each other when thousands were getting blow up ,they now draw the queens shilling and are on the in crowd ,problem was they were never out of the in crowd ,its all a con at all levels of this slave society, the british empire still rules even if it is called the USA ,all american presidents are related to the royal family work, that one out (yes they are Burk's peerage )..The royals were fans of hitler and were safe in the war ,what ground or gain have we the people ever made in war who gets rich, the rich do ,who makes arms dealers, we still do Blair/brown is/are selling nuclear parts to Iran while in public condeming them ,we sell more arms to south africa now than ever the blacks are still slaves ,still starving and still being exploited by white blood line families .off me soap box ,all it takes it a little home work to find some truth and start to live if not for yourself then for your children and then all the children who come after us, to leave this dump a better world /place for us having been here,we are making a bad job of it with what we have for politics and corrupt politicians royals police and all it takes is to open the eyes and look forget conspiracy look at facts .take care speak soon maybe .
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Forgive me if I missed the point, but that first video makes a big deal about why there are more craters in places near the equator than in those near the poles? Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I always though that was to do with the fact that the earths gravitational field was stronger near the equator? In the same way as Saturn has its rings, rather than just a bunch of rocks all around it? So I would have just presumed that they were attracted to that area, and any hitting higher or lower (and I know those terms aren't realisticly correct in a 3d environment without gravity) would have 'bounced' off the atmosphere?

Besides, if being were capable of pan-galactic travel why does everyone think its normal for them to crash when they get here? Don't get me wrong, I thing the idea that there isn't other life in the universe is insane. I just don't believe for certain that a race capable of travelling such massive distances will be around at the same time as us.

EDIT: You also said Darwin was wrong? Explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iyUi_amu38&feature=related
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
You know what, I actually just attempted reading some of that. I have now decided that you sir are an imbecile. A cure for cancer found years before we knew what cancer was? Impressive! The bible was re-written? When exactly, apart from the famous version that allowed us to burn witches? Subversive subliminal Disney films and 10,00 year old nuclear wars, aliens, Atlantis and the existence of free energy. And I'm a royalist? You're off your rocker son.

I notice that you say you served in the military for 28 years, yet are dead against military action. This makes you either a liar, a person of dubious personal integrity, or an idiot of the highest order. However, you amuse me in a similar fashion to a zoo animal. I'm starting to suspect that one of Émile Borel's infinite monkeys broke its typewriter, and got a laptop on its new for old household insurance policy. Still, if I wasn't reading this stuff I'd have to get off my ass and do the washing up, so you are a useful distraction. I suggest you take a look at this link though for your next exciting installment.
 

Paul

A few posts under my belt
When your dead from the neck down and neck up whats the point you found your vocation in life dish washer go back to it

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/110608_a_stupid.htm
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
tek-monkey said:
I notice that you say you served in the military for 28 years, yet are dead against military action. This makes you either a liar, a person of dubious personal integrity, or an idiot of the highest order.
People are allowed to change their minds, you know. If it is true that Paul served in the military for 28 years, then he has surely made a much more informed choice about his opinion on military action than the rest of us.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Then maybe saying so, and why, would have the effect he required. I wouldn't expect someone in their mid 40s (min) to rant without some form of proof, surely there was something that convinced him?

Although if it was the aliens from Atlantis I stand by my original statement.
 
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