Stafford Traffic.

[Cue]

It’s interesting that the order is for 18 months for 3 weeks of work.

Do they have that little faith it’ll be done on time?*

* I am aware that it’s likely to allow for further work if they cock up

 

[proactive]

* I am aware that it’s likely to allow for further work when they cock up

 

[Gramaisc]

The "new lights" on the A34 at Redhill were out at around 2pm - all was functioning OK - someone has turned them back on now.

 

[Stone_Bloke]

The "new lights" on the A34 at Redhill were out at around 2pm - all was functioning OK - someone has turned them back on now.

I would like to know how those lights work, I have driven towards them at 3am at the legal speed limit with nothing else on the road, the lights change to red as you approach them and then they change back to green immediately. Is this a method of speed reduction or is it just a fault that needs reporting.

 

[Gramaisc]

I would like to know how those lights work, I have driven towards them at 3am at the legal speed limit with nothing else on the road, the lights change to red as you approach them and then they change back to green immediately. Is this a method of speed reduction or is it just a fault that needs reporting.

It's not unknown for lights to have a timed sequence to provoke a change after a period of no detections, just in case some poor sod is sat there waiting for it to go off having managed to get to the stop line without triggering a sequence. Cyclists, particularly, can suffer from "failure to be detected".

 

[Jonah]

Do cyclists actually stop at traffic lights?

 

[Gramaisc]

Do cyclists actually stop at traffic lights?

This one didn't this morning.

 

[cj1]

The lights do have a fail safe whereby if nothing is detected on the side road for a set time they will do a complete sequence anyway. However if on beaconside a rapid flash of the lights will change them back to green straight away before its done it's sequence meaning you dont need to stop. Only down side is after you have passed the light it's straight back to red and it starts it's sequence again holding up the car behind.

 

[Thehooperman]

The lights do have a fail safe whereby if nothing is detected on the side road for a set time they will do a complete sequence anyway. However if on beaconside a rapid flash of the lights will change them back to green straight away before its done it's sequence meaning you dont need to stop. Only down side is after you have passed the light it's straight back to red and it starts it's sequence again holding up the car behind.

The Beaconside ones go to red and straight back to green if nothing is exiting the new estate and then they stay on green until the next sequence.

It's a pain because it forces traffic to brake unnecessarily.

On a separate thought, these lights allow gaps in the traffic to allow traffic to enter and egress the Parkside junctions so is there a need to install more lights for these juntions when they do the roadworks for real?

 

[Gramaisc]

On a separate thought, these lights allow gaps in the traffic to allow traffic to enter and egress the Parkside junctions so is there a need to install more lights for these juntions when they do the roadworks for real?

Does there have to be a 'need'? History might suggest that it's not always necessary.

 

[stoofer34]

I have always thought the set of lights at the Crem were originally to regulate the traffic through the St Thomas's bends and bridges.
However, With the new residential developments and increasing traffic volumes now becomes a bottleneck at peak times.

S

 

[Gramaisc]

I have always thought the set of lights at the Crem were originally to regulate the traffic through the St Thomas's bends and bridges.
However, With the new residential developments and increasing traffic volumes now becomes a bottleneck at peak times.

S

The lights at the Crem appeared after a string of collisions there, especially after Baswich Lane was widened between Tixall Road and the farm bridge. That part of the lane was almost single track until then and traffic increased markedly when the extra capacity appeared.

 

[cj1]

The Beaconside ones go to red and straight back to green if nothing is exiting the new estate and then they stay on green until the next sequence.

only if its completed its sequence
1.beaconside red
2.newbold drive green
3.then back to red
4. beaconside green
if this sequence is interrupted. it will try again as soon as the vehicle that caused the interruption has passed.

 

[Cue]

Just had to sharply brake at the Newbold lights, they’re configured to go from green to amber to red much quicker than your average lights I’m pretty sure.

 

[Gramaisc]

Just had to sharply brake at the Newbold lights, they’re configured to go from green to amber to red much quicker than your average lights I’m pretty sure.

Part of the issue there can be that the lights have been told that they are in a 30mph limit, but a lot of the traffic still remembers when it was a 50mph one.

There could even still be some left alive who think it's a 60....

 

[Kickstart]

Do cyclists actually stop at traffic lights?

Traffic lights not detecting you is a real pain on a motorcycle.

All the best

Katy

 

[cj1]

Just had to sharply brake at the Newbold lights, they’re configured to go from green to amber to red much quicker than your average lights I’m pretty sure.

As said yesterday there is a fail safe setting to prevent traffic becoming stuck on Newbold drive. If the fail safe sequence is interrupted for whatever reason it will try again a few seconds later.

 

[age'd parent]

Part of the issue there can be that the lights have been told that they are in a 30mph limit, but a lot of the traffic still remembers when it was a 50mph one.

There could even still be some left alive who think it's a 60....

And where did we test our hondas? the "new road" , no speed limits, no lights, no bobbys there.

 

[Cue]

As said yesterday there is a fail safe setting to prevent traffic becoming stuck on Newbold drive. If the fail safe sequence is interrupted for whatever reason it will try again a few seconds later.

I’m talking about the speed at which it changes between them during a transition, not the fail safe

 

[proactive]

Traffic lights not detecting you is a real pain on a motorcycle.

All the best

Katy

Oh yes. But we make up for it by not having front number plates.