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Discussion in 'Stafford Chat' started by captainpish, Oct 6, 2014.

  1. kyoto49

    kyoto49 Well-Known Forumite

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    Yes agreed, my poorly made point is that we need to get away from the car and utilise cleaner, cheaper forms of transport and invest in public transport to also facilitate the necessary move away cars
     
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    Last night too? The noise was horrific, unless they've just cut down all the nearby trees which is amplifying the motorway traffic.
     
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    I'm surprised the police don't have speed guns set to stun for these diversions....during the first lockdown when I'd do late night walks I was staggered how fast some of the hgvs would be going on Wolverhampton Road....
     
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    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

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    Public transport will only be any good if it picks you up from where you want to be picked up and takes you to where you want to go. Something that it will never be able to do.

    Also we're all being urged strongly not to use public transport at the moment so if most people didn't have cars we'd be stuffed.

    Transport as a whole, needs to be a lot greener. A start is electric cars, buses and vans as at least they produce zero emissions at point of use together with a massive increase in electricity generation by nuclear and renewables. Next would be the widespread roll-out of hydrogen fuelled vehicles and their associated infrastructure, then we really would see a benefit to the planet, as well as the locality.
     
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    I wouldn't say stafford is the same as everywhere, the traffic and car use is defo more i'd say for a town of this size, in some cases it can't be helped but in a lot of cases it can helped.

    It's quite clear the roads are too crowded here, and it's only going to get worse, I'm glad I gave up driving (Look at all the housing developments either a) finished b) half built c) Just starting... doesn't look good for the future does it - So what happens, roads in the sky? more roads and less green space?

    This town use to be nice to walk about in, but yeah unless you go to certain areas impossible to avoid.
     
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  6. Gramaisc

    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    I had a neighbour who walked out of the front gate on three occasions in the twenty years he was there, never going further than 150 yards on those three major expeditions.

    Every other time he left the house, it was in a car.

    He would have driven upstairs to go to bed, if he could have.
     
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    I feel sorry for him really, it's lovely to go for a walk sometimes just for the mind also if you get away from the cars enough, (let's say cannock chase) you can generally tell the difference of the air quality, it's lovely.
     
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    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    I used to say that he was in a wheelchair, but he didn't actually know it.
     
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    PeterD ST16 Represent.

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    My mother and father lived near the parade in Donnington. They lived at the end of Turreff Avenue. They always drove to the Parade. Always.
    Shops and house marked yellow.

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    Such a 20th century view. Cars and vehicles are the past. For urban areas in normal non covid times public transport, cycling and walking have to be the norm. Population growth determines that we're never going to have enough roads, no matter the type of the vehicles use or the pointless spending of billions. Other countries, Denmark, the Netherlands for example have converted huge numbers of their population to use public transport and cycling as the main forms of transport so why shouldn't we?
     
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    So many of them trundling along sound empty. Makes no sense to do this
     
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    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

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    Such a typically condescending reply.
     
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    I currently (when not in a pandemic) have to take the train for longer trips to visit family, etc if I don’t want to have to stop every 60 or so miles (24kwh battery doesn’t get you very far...)

    If I never have to use public transport again once I switch cars, frankly it’ll be too soon. I used to take the bus to Uni every day it wasn’t nice and sunny and it was a horrible experience.

    Hell, my commute is 3-5 minutes, I still drive it every day. Not a bike person at all and generally do Co-op detour every few days for office milk, lunch, whatever with a £1500 laptop in tow that I’d rather not get wet. It’s just not really a bike or walk comparable lifestyle for me and the car is often full of stuff I’m moving back and forth
     
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    Public transport only has two significant problems.

    1, The public.

    2, The transport.
     
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    So said the Scania whisperer....
     
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    proactive Enjoying a drop of red.

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    When my company was based on Stafford I'd cycle in most days in the late spring/summer/ early autumn, not out of a sense of ecomentalism, simply because it was quicker than driving. Since moving to Shrewsbury that's not really viable so it's car/motorbike every day.

    60 mile range, that's an efficiency of 2.5kw per mile, which is terrible especially around town! I normally average 3.5-3.7kwpm. If I'm really taking it easy on a gentle run to work then I have had 4kwpm once or twice. 2.5 is what I get booting it down a French or Italian motorway.
     
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    How is public transport provided if vehicles are the past? Should we all be keeping a horse, perhaps?

    Also more people would be inclined to use public transport if it was fit for purpose, clean and reasonably affordable e.g. We have few bus services before 0730 or after 1800 in Stafford making most commutes impractical.

    Finally cycling in the Netherlands is easier than most countries due to it being so flat.
     
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    Your car is also worth like 3 times the RRP of mine, to be fair. I get 4 miles per kWh around town, but on the motorway yeah more like 2.5. The sweet spot on the Leaf is definitely 30mph

    60 miles in winter I should note, 80 in summer... it’s getting replaced in coming months with an M3P though so won’t be a problem for much longer
     
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    The future is self drive electric cars. I think in the not to distant future road collision rates will plummet and we will look back and say 'can you believe we used to drive these things'.

    EDIT. I also think they will be UBEResk. we will just call one when we need one rather than own them
     
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    That’s the plan with all the PCP returns and Leased/Contract Hire cars that Tesla do direct I believe. Plus all the ones where the owners rent them out through “the system”

    I’ll still want to put my foot down on an empty stretch myself though. I don’t pay for that acceleration to not then have fun with it
     

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