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I'm buggered then.......Tell you what Henrys Cat, why not ask admin for a dedicated 'intelligent comments forum' which only forumites with a higher level of intellegence(or people that agree with you) are allowed to post on.
I'm buggered then.......
There is no way in which meat or dairy consumption can ever be benign.
Although it is tempting to take a reductio ad absurdum approach, it is useful to apply criteria, which you may or may not agree upon, to the debate.I'll take it further and say that it is immoral to harm any living thing. And I include slug pellets, mousetraps, and even pulling up garden shrubs which were 'past their best' to be replaced by other younger shrubs, as well as the more obvious stuff that we've been talking about.
Before i go, another quote from my Attorney - this time attributable -If you are going to refer to "lesser animals" - what characteristics makes an animal "lesser"? And why?
Questioning the where?s the why?s and the wherefore?s is never a waste of anyones wonderfulness.
Tell you what Henrys Cat, why not ask admin for a dedicated 'intelligent comments forum' which only forumites with a higher level of intellegence(or people that agree with you) are allowed to post on.
I'm really struggling to come up with something less superficial. That's not to say that there isn't a reason other than "it tastes nice"; it's just that I'm struggling to come up with anything.I think if you take the lives of others there is an obligation to at least justify it with something less superficial than "bacon tastes nice".
This post is better put than the ones last night which I found a little condesending and questioned the intellegence of some forumites. We are entitled to our opinions and it is not everybodys style to post long articles. Sometimes 5 lines can be more effective than 50.At risk of repeating myself... I see nothing wrong with asking questions and nowhere have I said that anyone "must agree" with me - I am under no illusions that a lot of people on here do not. However, as far as this thread goes there are those who are unable or unwilling to answer / explore the full extent of why it is they consume meat/dairy. I would say that if you cannot/will not answer those questions, should you continue to make that choice? And before anyone says it, that is not an expectation of receiving agreement either.... I think if you take the lives of others there is an obligation to at least justify it with something less superficial than "bacon tastes nice". Unfortunately the accusation of "you're trying to tell me what to do" often boils down to consciously or sub-consciously being a diversion tactic.
It's a suitable starting point. It's got me thinking whether it's worse to kill a fly that's strayed into your living room just as you favourite TV programme is starting and is just flying around, minding its own business, as opposed to killing a pig who's been brought into this world to be killed and then turned into rashers, chops and trotters. In the same way, are the North Sea trawlermen by catching of fish who are just there swimming around as fish do, any worse than the fish farmers?Although it is tempting to take a reductio ad absurdum approach, it is useful to apply criteria, which you may or may not agree upon, to the debate.
I think if you take the lives of others there is an obligation to at least justify it with something less superficial than "bacon tastes nice".
Nowt wrong with horsemeat.You wouldn't think of eating a horse either
I've only eaten it once, in minced form, in a spag bol affair sort of thing. It came about due to a cock-up on the catering/shopping/not-knowing-much-french front.Nowt wrong with horsemeat.
I've only eaten it once, in minced form, in a spag bol affair sort of thing. It came about due to a cock-up on the catering/shopping/not-knowing-much-french front.
I'm rather ashamed to say that we did not inform all the diners of the provenance until after they had eaten it. They had no problem eating it before being told what it was, but there was quite a lot of anger after. I rather shamelessly absolved myself of any of the blame, for indeed it had not been me that purchased it, though i was complicit in the subsequent economy with the truth. Seemed a shame for it to go to waste on a technicality, my practically minded self had concluded.
It was ok, bit on the bland side i thought.
I've only eaten it once, in minced form, in a spag bol affair sort of thing. It came about due to a cock-up on the catering/shopping/not-knowing-much-french front.
I'm rather ashamed to say that we did not inform all the diners of the provenance until after they had eaten it. They had no problem eating it before being told what it was, but there was quite a lot of anger after.
either you're lying when you say you "honestly don't understand why there was so much anger," or you're stupider than i give you credit for..I honestly don't understand why there was so much anger - if they were that bothered about what exactly they were eating then they should have asked beforehand (like I have to, over and over again - and double check to make sure that they know what 'vegan' means...)!
Indeed it seemed a bit out of proportion, and not a little logically inconsistent, but man they really were pretty pissed orf.I honestly don't understand why there was so much anger -