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TV Licence debate.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Cue, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. PeterD

    PeterD ST16 Represent.

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    I stand corrected.

    That said, my friend doesn’t pay the license fee, he streams everything. Thats his way around it. I guess if people were vehemently against it, thats one way round it. Not ideal if you don’t use any BBC services whatsoever.

    I am a cheerleader for it, unapologetically and outside of their news, its a marvellous provider. If the license fee increased I would happily pay it. Thats me though, I have seen enough of the internet to know it has people that want it ended. Those people are slack jawed simpletons. Not you, other people.
     
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  2. BobClay

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    Yeah right .. and Sky is so cheap (arf arf) .. and I am a Sky subscriber. You not only pay far far more for it than the licence, but you have to put up with an outrageous amount of advertising .. nearly 20 minutes per hour at peak times.

    To check properly, use a proper website:

    https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one
     
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  3. kyoto49

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    I have nothing against the BBC, but subscription model only. Its morally outrageous that we have to pay them money to use other providers of live TV. They don't own live TV, only their programs. It's like paying the electric board money but only using gas.
    The simpletons are the people who think that the BBC is a wonderful institution. It's an outdated, morally contemptable extortion racket. If people want to watch the programs the BBC produce they should pay for them, the charge shouldn't be levyed on all regardless of usage. It's a joke, a very bad one.
     
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  5. Lucy

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    Did you know the BBC used to have to pay Sky to be on their platform.

    We'll miss it when it's gone and all the media is controlled by the Murdoch dynasty.
     
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  6. kyoto49

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    Why shouldn't they? They are using Sky's platform so they pay. Given that their channels are available other ways its a straw man that

    If the BBC is so good people will be happy to pay for it under subscription like they do other channels won't they. Why should they be protected from competition and be unaccountable? This nostalgia for something from a bygone age is fine, so long as people who don't subscribe to it aren't getting charged.

    If I want netflix, I pay for netflix. If I want prime, I pay for prime. If I don't want them I don't pay. Why should the BBC be any different? No one has yet provided a coherant reason!
     
  7. Lucy

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    I refer you back to the Murdoch dynasty. Having more unbiased media is really important. Before you bite my head off please see the word more.
     
  8. proactive

    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    Alternatives to the Murdoch media can only be a good thing but to claim the BBC is unbiased is a bit of a stretch. They have an agenda, just like everyone else.
     
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  9. Glam

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    I'm pretty sure you need a license to listen to the radio?
     
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  10. basil

    basil don't mention the blinds

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    Educate Inform Entertain........
     
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  11. PeterD

    PeterD ST16 Represent.

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    Aah I see, I thought the problem was the BBC. I again stand corrected. How the tv license is setup surely comes from the government. Doesnt it?
     
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  12. kyoto49

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    You actually used the words 'unbiased' and 'bbc' in the same sentence. Wow!

    Russia today and Al jazeera are as unbiased as the BBC
     
  13. kyoto49

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    It appears to come from feudal times! It's a regressive tax for a corporation that fails to meet its mandate
     
  14. proactive

    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    Sorry but that is utter nonsense.

    The BBC has a liberal, left of centre bias that may or may not be a good thing, depending on your point of view. The foreign channels you refer to are pure state propoganda, particularly Russia Today.

    There is no comparison between them and the BBC.
     
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  15. Gramaisc

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    Radio licence was abandoned in the early 1970s.
     
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    Bottom line is the BBC isn't dedicated to making a profit, all the rest are. It may well be a corporation but doesn't follow the Corporate Godlike worship of money, which all of the others do. It also doesn't interrupt programs for the mindless pap of advertising. For me that's worth the price of a pint per week.

    No it isn't perfect, nothing is, but it's a public service, and a pretty cheap one at that considering what you pay for the others.

    I'm of the opinion it's probably doomed, BlowJob Johnson has made it clear it's one of his targets. It'll be handed over to the market I dare say, and that will be a sad day for the country that literally pioneered TV and radio broadcasting and in my opinion still sets the standard.
     
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  17. kyoto49

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    Clearly I was being facetious to emphasise my point, or I thought it was clear, but maybe it wasn't!
     
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  18. littleme

    littleme 250,000th poster!

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    The BBC isn't dedicated to making a profit?? Really?
     
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    The operative word is: 'dedicated.'
     
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  20. PeterD

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    One day the BBC will be gone and broadly, people out there and not necessarily people on here, people will wonder where our outlets for scripts, performers, music and comedy are. Where they are allowed to be nurtured and not pulled mid season because the figures weren't as expected. Where world beating documentaries are allowed a home. Where that niche country music series is, or that hour long discussion on krautrock is to be broadcast. Where the weather and local news are, where the world news is. People will wonder where they can hear and see The Proms, where the next Bowie, Bolan, Sex Pistols and Queen can be heard.
    The next Attenborough, Jed Mercurio or even Michael McEntire.
    My point is, the BBC might not serve you all you want, but the places you get what you want will have been influenced, guided or had their start on the BBC. Yes the BBC get it wrong, some say there is a left wing bias and some say their is a right wing bias with the editorial decisions of Newsnight and QT.
    I think the world, television and radio, the web and learning, will be much darker with the eradication of the BBC as some suggest. If it went to a fully commercial entity, the mail and sky would cry foul due to their power and presence. Subscription may be the way forward, if it goes that route, sadly I feel we will lose most of radio, certainly local radio, and also the beautiful BBC4.
    I stress again, this isn’t aimed at “you”, its my view and although you might not like examples, they are just examples, of which there are others.
     

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