Youth Services to go?

Carole

Carole

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I have heard today that a decision has been made by the council to completely close down all of youth services in South Staffs.

That's 1500 hundred children who attend a youth club.......gone.


No more Youth Action Kouncil (YAK) .....all gone.

No more youth forums .....nothing.

Loads of people who have given everything for the youth of today and the adults of tomorrow to be made redundant.

What a shambles.

A totally ridiculous backward step.
 
ATJ

ATJ

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Carole said:
No it isn't.

That report mentioned "possible partial closures" and a decision next week.

Well the decision has now been made.

Total closures, or so I have been told.
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Mr Parry said a consultation would start in January over the plans to overhaul youth services if the plans were approved by the cabinet.
“Our youth services are in a fairly traditional format, and most councils have changed that over time. We think that there are opportunities here to provide services, or provide opportunities for young people that may not currently exist. What they are telling us is that the opportunities that we provide through our service are not what they want.”
Mr Parry said the proposed cuts to youth services would save around £4.5million pounds – with half a million anticipated in year one, £2million in year two and a further £2.6million by year three – as well as possibly generating income in the future through the sale of buildings currently used to host council-run youth centres.

Read more: http://www.staffordshirenewsletter.co.uk/Stafford-s-Shire-Hall-Gallery-closed-radical/story-20307437-detail/story.html#ixzz2nfyB8kgI

I presume what's happened is that the plans have been approved by cabinet and now consultation will begin in January. Which is what was always going to happen seeing as cabinet wrote the plans and agreed to let them go public a week early.

I'd rather follow the logical conclusion to be had from this article than what you've been told. Not that either is a good thing.​
 
Carole

Carole

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Well I shall say no more.

I may have betrayed a confidence.

Someone close to me got a phone call today from someone who works in youth services.

But perhaps I wasn't listening properly and misheard or misjudged what he told me.

Yes, that would be it.

So just ignore my first post until any official announcement.

Apologies for what may be false information.
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

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Ignoring the County Council choice of cuts for one moment...

The ConservativeLiberal coalition Government cuts to Local Authorities is simply massive

No one , Labour included, is having any discussion at National or Local level about raising direct taxation to pay for services, be they galleries, old folks homes, seven day A and E , anything

The whole thing is the elephant in the room, the unspoken

The only discussion is the squabble over what survives and what gets killed off


Unless your hospital or facility is paid for by taxation it wont exist unless it becomes a totally privately owned business.

Health care cost in the US is more expensive than here by a factor of 3

One third goes on

healthcare

One third goes in profits

One third goes

On litigation
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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People may just be assuming that the consultations will be largely window-dressing- although, that is often the case.

I'll admit to being surprised that youth clubs still exist - I'm utterly unaware of any, although I'm not in the target audience any more.
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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John Marwood said:
One third goes

On litigation
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There was a figure given a few weeks back that the NHS spends £700 insuring each birth. Maybe £700 extra spent on each birth might result in a bit less litigation?

Here we are - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24865983 .

National Audit Office said:
in 2012 the NHS spent nearly £700 on clinical negligence cover for every live birth in England - almost a fifth of all spending on maternity.
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Withnail

Withnail

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Carole said:
Apologies for what may be false information.
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Apologies aren't called for - i doubt anyone believes that this 'consultation' will result in anything other than the closures/cuts that are proposed.

It is beginning to feel more and more like the potential loss of the Shire Hall is a mere ruse to deflect attention away from the real agenda. Presumeably we are to be grateful that it is 'saved', at the price of huge losses elsewhere.

John Marwood said:
No one , Labour included, is having any discussion at National or Local level about raising direct taxation to pay for services, be they galleries, old folks homes, seven day A and E , anything
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There was an interesting line by Cllr Parry - which i'll have to paraphrase coz i CBA to re-read it - along the lines that no one wants 'big' councils anymore, those days are gone, sort of thing.

It reminded me of the quote from O W Holmes - "I like to pay taxes. With them I buy civilization." - has this idea really died?
 
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John Marwood

John Marwood

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Our future died with the invention of 'the pill'

No more kids to balance the ageing population - loads more women in the jobs market




(' he ducks so low he might be just a pair or slip ons')
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

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The average ( mean ) family in Bangladesh has two kids

It's because the kids no longer die as infants so the family who wanted two kids used to have five or six . And then ended up with two or three that survived.

The older population also lives longer

And so the ratio is distorted

However, by 2027 the ratio will revert back everywhere in the world

Except Europe
 
Withnail

Withnail

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Gramaisc said:
This might cheer you up, just a little bit.
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If Theresa May has taught us nothing else, which TBF she hasn't, she has taught us that evidence - ie there is no population crisis, immigrants make a net contribution to the economy, the NHS doesn't actually suffer from 'health tourists', those sorts of things - is no basis on which to make policy.

It is, of course, what one feels to be true that is more important - though she did neglect to mention where people get these 'feelings' from.
 
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John Marwood

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Seems Wimpey can't flog the homes that will replace the old folks homes in Rowley Park


Maybe convert them into a ...
 
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