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If you'd have stuck to the "killing animals for food is morally wrong" argument, I'd have accepted it and moved on, but it's when you stray into the "consuming meat and dairy products is bad for you" point of view, I think "So what. Not my problem. I'll take the risk, thankyou." That's what I mean by 'irrelevant'; it is of no relevance to my situation. It may be of relevance to you, possibly because you're a bit of a chubster already, or you resent the extra burden on the health service of people with poor diets, but as I say, to me it's a bit of a non-issue. If I perceive it as a health risk, then I cut down but not cut out.Specifically which ones and why? Dismissing arguments as "irrelevant" is a different thing to disagreeing, which again suggests hiding from the inconsistencies in your own actions.
Only because I can't type on a proper keyboard at the moment. In the meanwhile, you haven't answered what are some really simple questions. The only reason you haven't is because it may challenge your thinking.You failed to address any of his points, very telling.
It isn't always necessary to kill "pests" and there are humane ways of dealing with them.I'm sure there's inconsistencies in most peoples' positions if they were looked at closely. Why do we kill pests to allow our crops to grow?
That's like saying it's okay to have a black person as your slave (assuming you're not black, of course).We've covered this one before haven't we? I see pets and cattle as completely seperate entities, even if they are the same genetically.
That's like saying it's okay to have a black person as your slave (assuming you're not black, of course).
Yes, I am indeed facist. I will not eat anything with a face or that came from anything with a face. That includes clock batteries - even digital ones.Normally on here threads die a death after a few days debate so full credit to Henrys cat to this topic going for so long. Saying that I'm with db about the nature of this debate and gave up contributing to this thread a couple of months ago because it felt I wasn't going anywhere with certain members entrenched in their opinions and not prepared to accept other people had a point of view. Sorry to sound like a stuck record but it's funny how some people who like to consider themselves liberals have facist tendicies
That is quite funny, like itYes, I am indeed facist. I will not eat anything with a face or that came from anything with a face. That includes clock batteries - even digital ones.
Then you sour the mood with an add on, oh well I suppose you can say(and eat) what you wantYes, I am indeed facist. I will not eat anything with a face or that came from anything with a face. That includes clock batteries - even digital ones.
Oh... You mean fascist! I think you need to look up the word personally, as I think you'll find that my disagreeing with your ill-considered opinion is nowhere near fascist, yet your speciesist violence is.
I'm not quite sure I get that site.
If you are simply getting at the fact I treat non-humans different to humans then you will find that is an entirely natural state exhibited by most species on the planet -
it is certainly more natural than an omnivore refusing to eat meat.
If man treated all animals as humans it would become illegal to keep your dog on a lead or your gerbil in a cage as that is false imprisonment, feeding them different food to yourself would be wrong as that is discrimination, I assume beastiality would become legal as well. Would they get employment rights too? At least we'd lose the stupid vet bills as they could get treated on the NHS. Or maybe it should go the opposite way, rather than animals getting human rights we should take the rights away from humans that animals don't have? Make it no longer a crime to lock people up and feed them crap? Kill them as you wish, eat them if you want. Tie them up outside the pub while you go inside for a drink perhaps?
You see, it all becomes rather stupid. You can't treat them as human for one purpose and not others, as that means you are still discriminating. Where do you draw the line, and why?
not prepared to accept other people had a point of view.
Sorry to sound like a stuck record but it's funny how some people who like to consider themselves liberals have facist tendicies
Not really, as I don't count people as animals?
I note you still haven't addressed the points raise yet are continuing to ask others to explain themselves. Or are you still 'unable to type on a proper keyboard'Only because I can't type on a proper keyboard at the moment. In the meanwhile, you haven't answered what are some really simple questions. The only reason you haven't is because it may challenge your thinking.