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We could, yes. In fact let's.We could even go down the argument that those who voted to leave didn't know what they were voting for (although I certainly did) Stafford voted to Leave.
No Deal" does not exist - plenty of other countries trade on WTO rules.
We could, yes. In fact let's.
Which rather leads to the question - if this was the implicit state of affairs on the basis of what was argued in 2016, why did so many of our Leave protagonists spend so much of their time trying to convince you that voting Leave would NOT mean a 'no-deal'/WTO type future?
Because everybody now trying to phrase the arguments of 2016 in the realities of 2019 doesn't actually have to live in darkness, please enjoy some light -
https://mobile.twitter.com/EmporersNewC/status/1113547733300842497
Well ima gonna stop you right there - i haven't 'revel' ed in anything for probably close to a decade now.You seem to revel in ..
You seem to revel in the state of being almost inconsolably angry. How's that working out for you?...deciding what I was told and who told me, assuming I am incapable of investigating for myself or forming my own opinion- a typical tactic of the Remoaners- pick their fight - have a dig and then move on before anyone notices. They discuss whatthey want to discuss based on what they believe I believe. I have lost count of the number of them who have told me that the referendum should be declared void because Leave "broke the law by overspending £1.4 million" and yet refuse to discuss the £8 million Cameron spent on the first Remain leaflet that CamerCON sent to every household- apparently that doesn't count because it was before the official campaign launch.
... and should you really be relying on the opinion of or following someone on Twatter who has the time to write 45,000 posts? and following 4,000 people - I would suggest he neither has the time to "analyse or think about the opinions of those 4,000 people and no time to live in the real world. As for calling himself a political analyst - just another word for "opinionated twat"
I have picked my fight.- a typical tactic of the Remoaners- pick their fight - have a dig and then move on before anyone notices...
That's what passes as showing off in Doxey.I have relatives in 3 different prisons
The reason we have not left "with a deal" is because we have inept politicians who are incapable of negotiating. There has been no negotiation, mainly because our parliament doesn't want to leave. We sent politicians with little experience of negotiating and an arrogant attitude to deal with skilled and practiced negotiators- the EU must have been laughing from day one. Remember the pictures of the EU turning up with "bundles of files" while our bloke had a pen? - it's been stage managed by the EU since the start.
We demanded something - the EU said no - we panicked and didn't know what to do next, there has been no negotiation - not a single iota of it.
In my opinion totally because the Tories saw it as a political tool to keep themselves in power rather than what it was- a situation that needed every party working together. Both Cameron and May have seen it as a personal vehicle for them and the Tory party, hence the reason for ignoring he electorate.
Everybody keeps saying this as if it was true, even though it isn't, as if the Treaty of Rome didn't predate our acceptance into the fold.We signed up to a common market, not a federal Europe.
Which is presumably why we should plough ahead with Brexit, rename it Project Inept, and start our next probably much more successful negotiations with the soft touches in the US and China? Yes? Really, Really??The reason we have not left "with a deal" is because we have inept politicians who are incapable of negotiating.
It really isn't nonsense, and you really should worry about it. Read outside of your comfort zone.I really have no worries about a WTO deal and all this nonsense about "crashing out" and "disaster" is just more of the snake oil you talk about.
Shame to lose someone who has done so much for the town.