New Licensing Applications.

JulietTango

A few posts under my belt
Seems like that's the place for Jack to make his arguments, not Facebook.
That’s your opinion, but with the support he’s got on Facebook etc seems like the majority are with him. Ahh well, clearly you don’t support local small businesses.
 

ATJ

Well-Known Forumite
My point is that the opinion of the facebook mob doesn't matter to the planning committee and Jane from Parkside calling something a discrace doesn't actually influence the outcome. I'm actually trying to help Jack realise he needs to present a more professional face to his business.

I'd ask you not to cast aspersions but that's clearly the order of the day.

I'm out.
 

JulietTango

A few posts under my belt
My point is that the opinion of the facebook mob doesn't matter to the planning committee and Jane from Parkside calling something a discrace doesn't actually influence the outcome. I'm actually trying to help Jack realise he needs to present a more professional face to his business.

I'd ask you not to cast aspersions but that's clearly the order of the day.

I'm out.
Then contact jack directly instead of sitting behind a fake alias, unless you don’t have the interest in, as you say, helping him...
 

PeterD

ST16 Represent.
Then contact jack directly instead of sitting behind a fake alias, unless you don’t have the interest in, as you say, helping him...
Woah there JT, there is a right way and a wrong way, I have objected to planning permission in the past and as such would be very uncomfortable with a developer setting a facebook mob on me. There is a system to deal with objections that should be played out and that is not on Facebook. Your escalation because someone disagrees with you is very much out of proportion.
 

Thehooperman

Well-Known Forumite
Name & Shame is often the best way forward! After knowing Jack for many years, he takes everything he does with a lot of thought and would not, in my opinion do this if it was not to genuinely prove a point.

It's one thing to name and shame but to then call it a vendetta is totally unprofessional and I would expect better from Jack to be honest.

Regardless I hope the application goes through for him and I look forward to visiting his establishment(s) soon.
 

bunique

Well-Known Forumite
Based on Jack’s own comments on Facebook the objections from Express Curtains do not appear to be remotely malicious or personal. It appears they are just fed up of being increasingly surrounded by bars and takeaways and the hassle that can bring. Obviously it’s a business decision for them to remain there given that end of the high street is increasingly the nightlife “hub” of the town. But the licensing application process exists for people to state their objections and summoning a mob rather than explaining why your business won’t be contributing to the kinds of activity described by the objector is very poor.
 

Mudgie

Well-Known Forumite
Coming thick & fast at the moment, currently under consideration -

Stafford - Great British Beer Festival, 149 Newport Road. The Devil's Taphouse new operation.
Stafford - The Ship Aground, 3-4 Lichfield Road. Previously intended to be in Market Street
Eccleshall - Gentleman Jacks, 12 Stafford Street.
Norton Bridge - Izaac Walton Brewhouse, Eccleshall Road. Applying for on & off licence
Stone - Crown Wharf Brewery Tap, Crown Street.

Feel free to start new topics for any of them if you want. At least one has already been mentioned on the forum.
Is Gentleman Jacks anything to do with the Devils Taphouse ?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Surely being opposite casa, next to the grapes and just round the corner from icon means they'll already have way more idiotic drunks than their doorway can house any day of the week? I can't see how a real ale off license will have any effect whatsoever.
 

Thehooperman

Well-Known Forumite
Surely being opposite casa, next to the grapes and just round the corner from icon means they'll already have way more idiotic drunks than their doorway can house any day of the week? I can't see how a real ale off license will have any effect whatsoever.

Oi, you're discriminating against the idiotic Spoons drunks there!!!
 

Mudgie

Well-Known Forumite
Based on Jack’s own comments on Facebook the objections from Express Curtains do not appear to be remotely malicious or personal. It appears they are just fed up of being increasingly surrounded by bars and takeaways and the hassle that can bring. Obviously it’s a business decision for them to remain there given that end of the high street is increasingly the nightlife “hub” of the town. But the licensing application process exists for people to state their objections and summoning a mob rather than explaining why your business won’t be contributing to the kinds of activity described by the objector is very poor.
I remember in the 1970s being told "If you can't beat 'em Join 'em".
Maybe Express Curtains should consider if it's time for them to change direction, say "curtains to curtains", apply for a license to serve alcohol and actively become part of the nightlife “hub” of the town.
 

Wormella

Well-Known Forumite
Yes. Not sure of the details but I believe that GBBC is to be a bottle shop type premises for the Devil's Taphouse

I'm not sure the one in in Ecclesall (Gentleman Jack's) is connected to the Devil's Taphouse - only because I'm sure he would have mentioned it on his Facebook page.

I'm assuming that's an entirely different concern.
 
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Noah

Well-Known Forumite
Don't think there is any connection, Gentleman Jack's appears to be a mens' hairdressers with a sideline in Belgian beer.
 

littleme

250,000th poster!
Well, precisely. It would appear to be a very straightforward argument for Jack to make to the licensing committee. But instead he decided to take it to Facebook, like a teenager. If teenagers still used Facebook :rolleyes:
You never know what 'teenagers' are capable of....
 
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