The Red Lion, Bradley.

The Notorious A.N.T.

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The Red Lion says :-

"It is with a heavy heart that we have to inform you of the temporary closure of our kitchen at The Red Lion from Friday 8th October 2021.

As some of you may already know, our Head Chef, Stuart is leaving us this week to move on to pastures new. Stuart’s been a long standing member of the team both here at the Lion and the wider Lewis Partnership for over two decades. He’ll be sorely missed but we wish him all the best in his new role.

We were pleased to have quickly secured a new Head Chef, who was supposed to start work with us today. However, frustratingly, that individual has let us down and won’t be joining the team.

We are therefore left in a position where it is not possible to run our kitchen operation without having a detrimental impact on both the quality and service we provide as well as the well-being of our existing team members.

Our reservations team are in the process of contacting everyone with bookings impacted by this and we are working hard to recruit and reopen our kitchen as soon as possible.

The bar will be open for drinks only Wednesday to Saturday 5-11pm and on Sundays 12-7pm.

We look forward to welcoming you back to The Red Lion very soon and appreciate your understanding at this challenging time.


P.S. if you know of anyone who might be interested in heading up our kitchen team please get them to drop us an email with their CV to humanresources@thelewispartnership.co.uk "

Sounds like the other chef's existing employer crossed his/her palm with silver to stay. Read an interesting article the other day written by a Recruitment Consultant who had found a candidate for a vacant role a client had. The guy was offered the job, accepted it & handed in his notice. The Consultant then got a call to say that the guy had changed his mind about the new job as his existing employer had offered him a £15K rise to stay. The moral of the story was that it would save a lot of hassle all round if companies paid staff what they are worth & not what they think they can get away with!.
 

Mudgie

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Yes, Boris's "high wage society".
Never mind employers who can't afford to pay more or customers who then can't afford the higher prices.
 

Lucy

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Okay, but i didn't know you weren't referring to the hospitality industry which this topic is about.
Not sure that's Boris' high wage society idea, it's just he's realised with Brexit they can't get cheap labour in and get rid of immigration (and I'm a big fan of immigration) so he's pretending it was all a ploy. It hits the hospitality and retail sector the most, and will of course drag a lot more people into poverty as prices go up but their wages don't.
 

Mudgie

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Not sure that's Boris' high wage society idea, it's just he's realised with Brexit they can't get cheap labour in and get rid of immigration (and I'm a big fan of immigration) so he's pretending it was all a ploy. It hits the hospitality and retail sector the most, and will of course drag a lot more people into poverty as prices go up but their wages don't.

Yes indeed.​

"Boris Johnson pushes for a high-wage, high-skill workforce" but bar staff, fruit pickers and abattoir workers don't need higher skills than they've always had and their employers well know they didn't need higher wages before Brexit and that higher wages after Brexit will mean higher prices and or business closures.​

 

Noah

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The discussion has veered a long way from "The Red Lion at Bradley" and even "Pubs and Eating Out"
 

The Hawk

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Yes indeed.​

"Boris Johnson pushes for a high-wage, high-skill workforce" but bar staff, fruit pickers and abattoir workers don't need higher skills than they've always had and their employers well know they didn't need higher wages before Brexit and that higher wages after Brexit will mean higher prices and or business closures.​

The discussion has veered a long way from "The Red Lion at Bradley" and even "Pubs and Eating Out"
[Desperately trying to bring this back on some sort of topic]

Pubs like the Red Lion will depend on the abbatoir workers and fruit pickers to provide the ingredients for their meals, and most definitely need good bar staff so, yes, when they reopen their food service, prices will need to go up, but 'Shirley' they deserve a decent wage.

And yes, Brexit is going to mean higher prices, as a comsequence of those higher wages, and of all the consequences of Brexit those higher wages are one of the better ones, although I suspect many of those voting for Brexit didn't consider that consequence when they voted leave.
 

tek-monkey

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[Desperately trying to bring this back on some sort of topic]

Pubs like the Red Lion will depend on the abbatoir workers and fruit pickers to provide the ingredients for their meals, and most definitely need good bar staff so, yes, when they reopen their food service, prices will need to go up, but 'Shirley' they deserve a decent wage.

And yes, Brexit is going to mean higher prices, as a comsequence of those higher wages, and of all the consequences of Brexit those higher wages are one of the better ones, although I suspect many of those voting for Brexit didn't consider that consequence when they voted leave.

Failing miserably to stay on topic but...

I keep seeing 'news' articles (always right wing press) saying things like of course I'd like to pay higher wages but you'll have to pay an extra 50p per pint, or one hysterical one £10 for a coffee. Whenever I see these I always think is your business so dead that your staff only serve a few drinks an hour? If your wages bill goes up by £3/hour then you probably have associated costs making that £4/hour? Therefore if you price yourself to average £5/hour more you should be OK, but that means your average staff member only pours 10 pints an hour (or 1 coffee!). It's just trying to scare us into thinking these people can't possibly get paid enough to live on because it will slightly impact our own leisure costs, the horror!

If your full time staff need benefits to live, and I include tax credits in this, then you aren't paying enough. Tax credits are just benefits to employers anyway, so that they can get away with paying less. If prices have to rise so that people don't need benefits then so be it, but lower tax as we won't have as many claiming benefits either which will also then lower the needed wage slightly. Winner!
 

Thehooperman

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Failing miserably to stay on topic but...

I keep seeing 'news' articles (always right wing press) saying things like of course I'd like to pay higher wages but you'll have to pay an extra 50p per pint, or one hysterical one £10 for a coffee. Whenever I see these I always think is your business so dead that your staff only serve a few drinks an hour? If your wages bill goes up by £3/hour then you probably have associated costs making that £4/hour? Therefore if you price yourself to average £5/hour more you should be OK, but that means your average staff member only pours 10 pints an hour (or 1 coffee!). It's just trying to scare us into thinking these people can't possibly get paid enough to live on because it will slightly impact our own leisure costs, the horror!

If your full time staff need benefits to live, and I include tax credits in this, then you aren't paying enough. Tax credits are just benefits to employers anyway, so that they can get away with paying less. If prices have to rise so that people don't need benefits then so be it, but lower tax as we won't have as many claiming benefits either which will also then lower the needed wage slightly. Winner!
Have you factored in the impact of Teks-it?

Now that you're not drinking as much that 10 pints per hour has been dramatically reduced in certain establishments!!! 😂😂
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Have you factored in the impact of Teks-it?

Now that you're not drinking as much that 10 pints per hour has been dramatically reduced in certain establishments!!! 😂😂
As much? Hardly at all! Yeah, I can imagine a certain place feeling the pinch on that one, but now I have no housemates money coming in and the wife is on SMP (and redundant!) they are going to have to get used to it :o
 
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