Stafford Western Access Route.

Mudgie

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It's one thing building a bypass over brownfield, quite another over greenfield in this day and age. It was never going to happen in the 70s, 80s and 90s, nevermind in the ecomentalist age we live in now.

Besides, Stafford already has a bypass. It's called the M6.
The bypass opened this week is mostly over green fields not through a brownfield site.
Beaconside through to Lichfield Road, and on to Wolverhampton Road, was planned not long after the M6 was built so it wasn't going to be one or the other.
 

Gramaisc

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That plan was shelved/cancelled/ditched years ago.
I had a job reducing the scale of a tree in a councillor's garden during one of the resurgences of the Great Plan from the 1930s.

The councillor was a notable opponent of the scheme.

Weather conditions meant that I ended up doing it whilst they were away. An agitated old bloke turned up and demanded to know what I was doing. For a 'laugh' I told him that this tree had to go, as it was obstructing the laser that was marking the centreline of the road. It immediately became apparent that the fact that I was a good way up the tree and had most of the sharp stuff with me was distinctly fortuitous.

The old bloke was his father in law - and he had a different perception from my idea of a joke...
 

Thehooperman

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It's one thing building a bypass over brownfield, quite another over greenfield in this day and age. It was never going to happen in the 70s, 80s and 90s, nevermind in the ecomentalist age we live in now.

Besides, Stafford already has a bypass. It's called the M6.
But it's ok to build hundreds of houses on greenfield land so is there really any difference?
 

c0tt0nt0p

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The bypass opened this week is mostly over green fields not through a brownfield site.
Beaconside through to Lichfield Road, and on to Wolverhampton Road, was planned not long after the M6 was built so it wasn't going to be one or the other.
Are there any maps showing where it would be routed?
 

Gramaisc

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Are there any maps showing where it would be routed?
There were various largely similar plans, amended as the years went past and more stuff was built in the way. There was a sudden resurgence in the 70s, when Beaconside was extended from Sandon Road to the Redhill roundabout. In general, the southern extension would have followed the now Hydrant Way, past St Thomas's farm, down the river valley, through the Walton/Milford boundary, then round the back of Walton, past Acton Hill and on to the Catch Corner area, possibly with a separate junction, as is there now, rather than straight onto the J14 roundabout.

There was also talk of running up Baswich Lane and then down the Penk Valley to J14, or bypassing Baswich altogether and running along the Penk from the Sow junction.
 

The Hawk

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Are there any maps showing where it would be routed?
The old (1960s) plans were for a variety of routes (labelled something like A to G) which, one by one were all dismissed until there were none left.

A 'new' plan (around 2013) came up with this:
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of which only section A was deemed of high value in an independent report to the Council.

I'm sure this will be revisited many more times.

EDIT: I've started a new thread of the Eastern Distributor Road here.
 
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The Hawk

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New thread started for Eastern Distributor Road, so this one can stay on topic.
 
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littleme

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Used it this morning to get to work, defiantly quicker for me as it saves me having to go to & round the windmill roundabout and back on myself to get to my car park.

Normal way home though for me, its quicker that way!
 

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
Used it this morning to get to work, defiantly quicker for me as it saves me having to go to & round the windmill roundabout and back on myself to get to my car park.

Normal way home though for me, its quicker that way!
You start far too early for me to have given you a wave...................😸
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gilbert grape

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Friday's experience was another example that the town has nothing really resembling a bypass anywhere anymore.
Went to a funeral at Berkswish Methodist, then committal at the crem and then onto Rangers for the wake.
The whole experience of being in floods of kids from Walton, and then queueing through areas of Baswich showed how under pressure roads are, then going from the crem to Rangers wasn't a quick experience but traffic did just keep moving. The horse bolted long ago for Stafford to have any sort of bypass so anybody using that word to describe any new road in this town does not have a grasp of the meaning!
We will just have a series of roads linking estate to estate and when the M6 snarls up I just wonder what that will bring to the SWAR if people follow updated sat navs?
 

Mudgie

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Friday's experience was another example that the town has nothing really resembling a bypass anywhere anymore.
Went to a funeral at Berkswish Methodist, then committal at the crem and then onto Rangers for the wake.
The whole experience of being in floods of kids from Walton, and then queueing through areas of Baswich showed how under pressure roads are, then going from the crem to Rangers wasn't a quick experience but traffic did just keep moving. The horse bolted long ago for Stafford to have any sort of bypass so anybody using that word to describe any new road in this town does not have a grasp of the meaning!
We will just have a series of roads linking estate to estate and when the M6 snarls up I just wonder what that will bring to the SWAR if people follow updated sat navs?
Yes indeed.
Stafford not completing Beaconside beyond the Tixall Road is like if Stoke's D Road was missing between about the football ground and the M6 at Hanchurch.
 

Thehooperman

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Just witnessed a close call for potentially the first prang with the new layout as a car turning towards town from the SWAR decided to assume the green light with the arrow pointing left meant he could ignore the red light next to it and go right.

For some reason he thought he was in the right as the car ahead of me started to turn right and pulled out in front of him when our filter went green.
 
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